Large Online Poker Site Exempts Itself from U.S. Law Banning Online Gaming

I saw an interview with a law expert who said this bill won't hold up to challenges. In the end all will probably remain the same.

I hope so. I don't ever gamble online, but I think it's ridiculous that the government wants to step in and shut everything down. If they were that concerned about gambling, they wouldn't give casinos permits.

It's all in the name of watching their own pocketbooks. Money spent on gambling sites doesn't get spent in local casinos where government gets it's cut. They don't like that.

Bush signed the bill too:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061013/pl_afp/usattacksportpolitics;_ylt=AiRyk9gJ05LLsJhJU68Mr6kjtBAF;_ylu=X3oDMTA0cDJlYmhvBHNlYwM-

He may have signed it,but that doesn't mean it will stand up under challenge. You'll see one of the big casino sites ignore the law just to get it in court. My guess is it gets thrown out on appeal.

Bush is just trying to distract us from his inadequecies in other arenas, so he is trying to do something he thinks he CAN do.

I hitchike on that distraction comment. What a choice. What a way.
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When are the American people gonna make a stand and stop the governmant from pushing thier morals on others. If I do remember my teachings from school there is a seperation of church and state. The damn governmant cannot figure out a way to get there grimmy paws on all the internet money so they will just ban it. Do they realize the ripple effect this will have not just on the foriegn economy but here in the US as well. There are a lot of jobs that depend on internet gambling. For instance poker books and magazines will take a major hit if people are stopped from playing, as will the major poker tourneys. Maybe not right away but in the years to come. Will you see a record breaking number in the next World Series no way not if you cannot win a seat from an on line site. Not many can afford 10,000 entry fee. Furthermore if people cannot play they will lose intrest. Eventually the business boom from selling cards to chips and more will fizzle out. Thank you President Bush and all the others that voted for the bill. Time to excersise your rights and vote these idiots out of office and put someone in that will respect your rights.

Ken

When are the American people gonna make a stand and stop the governmant from pushing thier morals on others. If I do remember my teachings from school there is a seperation of church and state. The damn governmant cannot figure out a way to get there grimmy paws on all the internet money so they will just ban it. Do they realize the ripple effect this will have not just on the foriegn economy but here in the US as well. There are a lot of jobs that depend on internet gambling. For instance poker books and magazines will take a major hit if people are stopped from playing, as will the major poker tourneys. Maybe not right away but in the years to come. Will you see a record breaking number in the next World Series no way not if you cannot win a seat from an on line site. Not many can afford 10,000 entry fee. Furthermore if people cannot play they will lose intrest. Eventually the business boom from selling cards to chips and more will fizzle out. Thank you President Bush and all the others that voted for the bill. Time to excersise your rights and vote these idiots out of office and put someone in that will respect your rights.

Ken

The U.S. should make laws as Canada does:

You can't legislate morality. If it doesn't hurt someone besides yourself, why make it illegal? Why spend all the money to enforce that? etc.

Ken, the answer to your question is never!

People are so apathetic it kills me. It kills Democracy. It kills all of us.

Sure, the players are all upset about this right now but they just sit there waiting for someone ELSE to get up and do something about it. In six months it will be as if this law was never written. It will be buisness as usual. People will forget. The vast majority won't even know this law was passed. They won't vote in the next election. They won't run for office, they won't donate time to candidates they actually like. Things like, "both parties are evil", "my vote doesn't make a difference" are the consensus among online players. They'll do nothing but bitch and moan until next time. Rinse. Repeat.

I saw a preview for some movie, there was a quote, something to the effect of "What will your kids say about your role in society?" That's not it exactly but the point was that too many do too little to preserve the democracy which is eroding right before our eyes. This is what we leave the for the next generation. Having learned what they have from their parents - nothing aside from apathy and powerlessness - what will they leave for their children? Will there even be anything left of Democracy to leave for them?

"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
- Commonly attributed to Benjamin Franklin, but may have actually been Richard Jackson.

I for one will vote and encourage everyone I know to vote. I'm worse off now than I was just two years ago and far worse than I was six. Bush and the Republicans are wrecking this country by taking away our freedoms one by one. The sad part is I once considered myself one of them.

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You are correct that most people are apathetic nd do nothing but bitch and moan. They wont vote and then cry when thier govt does something like this. Bush wanted this port bill to combat terrorism and some of these religious hanky waviers knew it. So what do they do they attach this internet gamming ban onto a bill they knew that Bush would sign no matter what. What kind of bullshit is that. I for one will use my one vote to get these bums out of office. I will voice my opinion and do what I can. That is all I can do. We are a strong group there are millions of us so do the right thing and at least vote.

Ken

I guess we should take this move by Pokerstars as an interesting defence. Obviously they have choosen to run the gauntlet. Good luck to them.

I found a nice list compiling the different reactions so far to this crisis:

http://www.pokernex.com/Poker_operators_US_legislation.htm

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Poker Stars
Those are the two new ones I'm trying so far.
Full Contact is apparently switching the folks that provide the
software interface.

The gambling sites can try to ignore the ban, but the banks & credit cards aren't going to pay them. So their "self exemption" is going to be relatively meaningless.

I beleive it is not the morality of a party that is generating this. Yes the politicians have alot to do with the land based casinos but the casinos have lost alot to online gambling and can not by law have their own sites. It is the casino's who want it regulated more than the politicians and they are the ones to benefit the most from regulating it. You watch they will be on a buying spree....it will be the survival of the fittest for the online rooms. Once it gets regulated the Casino's will well be ahead of this game. It's all about the revenue that online gambling takes out of their pockets and they can't stand the fact that people might be sitting at home gambling instead of tapping into their ATM machines to dump money into their casinos. Mark my words they are the ones who want this and are going to cash in big time as soon as they get it regulated.

I played at sportsbetting.com and was canceled last week. I have a friend in Hungary that let me sign up for a new account using his address. Back to business for me