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article imageSouth Dakota Decides That Unborn Fetus Is Independent Life Regardless Of Stage

Posted Jul 22, 2008 by  Nikki W (karateblossom) in Lifestyle | 8 comments | 179 views
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The issue of fetal separation, or that a fetus is considered a completely independent life form, is now the scripted information that abortion doctors must provide to their patients in South Dakota. Does this imply it can survive on it's own?
In late June, the 8th US Circuit Court of Appeals overturned an injunction against an abortion law that required doctors performing the procedure to inform patients that they were ending a human life. The 7-4 decision temporarily quashed the hopes of those who believed the law infringed upon their right to free-speech. Some physicians who perform abortions do not recognize certain stages of fetal development as human life.

The 2005 law states that physician's must inform patients of the following:

"that the abortion will terminate the life of a whole, separate, unique, living human being." Women also would have to be told they have a right to continue a pregnancy and that abortion may cause women psychological harm, including thoughts of suicide.

The scripted information that must be provided to patients as part of the law does not say at what stage the fetus is a separate being. In fact, as one male observer put it, "I mean, I'm just a guy, not really an expert or anything. But, um, placenta? Umbilical cord?" Sure, that is literal translation but it shows how overgeneralized the law is and how the lack of neutrality in the language is meant as a deterrence and not to "inform patients".

The law also defines an abortion as "the use of any means to intentionally terminate the pregnancy of a woman known to be pregnant with knowledge that the termination with those means will, with reasonable likelihood, cause the death of the fetus." That means the consumption of herbal remedies known to be used in early days to induce a miscarriage such as pennyroyal is also considered abortion.

But terminology aside, doesn't the law contradict itself? If the life is "whole and separate and living", then it doesn't require a connection to maintain life. Theoretically, if there is an independent life form living inside of a woman, in South Dakota, can we not remove it and it survive on its own?

A poll taken by the New York Times showed varying views depending upon party affiliation, geographic location and gender as far as availability.

General availability Democrats 43% Republicans 29% Opposed 21%
Limited availability Democrats 35% Republicans 41% Opposed 28%

Northerners were the most liberal supporters of general abortion availability, while southerners were the most restrictive. Men supported abortion at a slightly greater margin than women. Very few people support third trimester abortions, while in a Gallup poll in 2003, 66 percent showed support for first trimester abortions.

With South Dakota falling into one of the more mid-range states, the agenda-driven language isn't surprising. And with just under 60 percent of the abortions in the United States being performed during the first trimester, according to CDC data, is it really a viable statement to say that a fetus in South Dakota is a whole and separate human being? Is a fetus in another state not a separate human being?

South Dakota has only one abortion clinic and it is operated by Planned Parenthood. The center promotes a comprehensive view based upon informed consent in all areas whether one decides on choosing to parent or chooses to abort.

Regardless of ones belief on abortion, it is essential that states get their laws straight if they are to provide patients with an unbiased view of the procedure, as well as all of the other options available to them. To claim that a 4-week-old fetus is a separate being is indeed a fallacy in that the fetus is completely reliant upon the mother for survival. To force physician's into making the same claim is anything but medically sound or neutral.

Food for thought.
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  • avatar Posted Jul 22, 2008 by  Chris V. (cgull)
    #1
    Regardless of ones belief on abortion, it is essential that states get their laws straight if they are to provide patients with an unbiased view of the procedure, as well as all of the other options available to them. To claim that a 4-week-old fetus is a separate being is indeed a fallacy in that the fetus is completely reliant upon the mother for survival. To force physician's into making the same claim is anything but medically sound or neutral.
    I agree. It is a controversial topic, but I would let the couple decide for themselves, I don't want to impose my opinion on them. They should do what is right for the baby, for themselves.
  • avatar Posted Jul 22, 2008 by  Nikki W (karateblossom)
    #2
    @ Chris V. (cgull)
    I agree. It is a controversial topic, but I would let the couple decide for themselves, I don't want to impose my opinion on them. They should do what is right for the baby, for themselves.
    Apparently not in South Dakota, chris.
    :o(
  • avatar Posted Jul 22, 2008 by  Samantha A. Torrence
    #3
    Here is the thing, while the baby is connected by the placenta and umbilical cord, it can still feel pain and experience fear. It does have a separate consciousness, therefore the aborting mother needs to at least have some compassion and acknowledge the status of the fetus. (typically this is past 6 weeks pregnancy)

    I think it is good to inform a woman of the effects of any procedure on thier body, that includes abortion. Also they should be given the option of allowing the fetus to be given anethetic so at least it won't feel pain or be at all conscious for the procedure.
  • avatar Posted Jul 22, 2008 by  Nikki W (karateblossom)
    #4
    @ Samantha A. Torrence
    ...therefore the aborting mother needs to at least have some compassion and acknowledge the status of the fetus. (typically this is past 6 weeks pregnancy)


    I agree...which, according to those polls, many of Americans polled do too and most have the abortion within the 1st 12 weeks. I know it is a tough subject for many.

    Heck, I couldn't do it. But I still don't wish to pass incredible judgment on others who do. Being a mommy and that first feeling of life, I couldn't harm it.
  • avatar Posted Jul 22, 2008 by  Chris V. (cgull)
    #5
    @ Nikki W (karateblossom)
    I agree...which, according to those polls, many of Americans polled do too and most have the abortion within the 1st 12 weeks. I know it is a tough subject for many.

    Heck, I couldn't do it. But I still don't wish to pass incredible judgment on others who do. Being a mommy and that first feeling of life, I couldn't harm it.
    I also wouldn't want to hurt the baby either, it is a living thing like Samantha said. I wish they would just use condoms or pills instead of going to this stage.
  • avatar Posted Jul 22, 2008 by  Sheba
    #6
    It is a separate living entity not because it depends on the mother for nutrients and other things in order to survive at the early stages (they do need nutrients and other things from the mother to survive even after birth you know), but because it is a life that is unique and separate from that of the mother and as such should be protected and if killed (aborted being the politically correct word) then having the proper anesthetic administered so it is done humanly. A good decision considering Planned Parenthood are the ones doing the abortions there and they are notorious for doing these procedures on kids without their parent's knowledge or consent or without proper counseling on the after effects of an abortion.
  • avatar Posted Jul 22, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #7
    @ Chris V. (cgull)
    I also wouldn't want to hurt the baby either, it is a living thing like Samantha said. I wish they would just use condoms or pills instead of going to this stage.


    That is exactly what should be done cgull. Take responsibility for your actions BEFORE you have sex.

    "can we not remove it and it survive on its own?"
    Can a woman give birth and toss the baby in the garbage and the baby take care of itself and survive on its own?

    I still say if a baby can be murdered by a hired killer and he and the woman not be prosecuted then neither should a woman or girl who kills the baby after giving birth be prosecuted either. Give her 8 or 9 months to decide if she will keep it or murder it.
  • avatar Posted Jul 23, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #8
    Excellent report, Nikki and great comments! This is food for thought...and Samantha and Sheba have some strong points that I believe in as well.

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