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Barack Obama said, "I'm going to call in the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and give them a new mission, and that is to bring the war in Iraq to a close." The problem is that the Joint Chief of Staff does not have operational command of the U.S. Military.
The chain of command is the line of authority and responsibility along which orders are passed.
It is a common misconception that the Joint Chief of Staff runs military operations for those that have no military experience, but according to the chain of command for the United States, the responsibility of conducting military operations goes directly from the President of the United States of America to the Secretary of Defense and straight from there to the Unified Combatant Commands.
Those orders bypass the Joint Chief of Staff completely. The primary responsibility of the Joint Chief of Staff is to ensure the personnel readiness, policy, planning and training of their respective military services for the combatant commanders to utilize. They also militarily advise the President of the United States and the Secretary of Defense with the chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff being a chief military adviser to both.
CNN, while showing the clip of Obama saying "I'm going to call in the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and give them a new mission, and that is to bring the war in Iraq to a close. We are going to get out", which can be seen here, never mentioned the misstatement by Obama and, as of now, a search shows that no other major news organization has reported the gaffe.
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Originally this was caught by conservative writer and radio show host, Hugh Hewitt from Townhall and picked up by NewsBusters and The Media Research Center, who instantly sent out an alert via email.
Bloggers have picked up on this with Dean Barnett, from the Weekly Standard Blog, asking, "As he’s been running for office for 18 months now, shouldn’t he have found some time to explore the way the president interacts with the military rather than repeat canned (not to mention erroneous) assumptions he’s probably held since his community organizing days?"
The question here is where is the media on this? CNN actually showed the clip of Obama's words, which means the gaffe was shown publicly but they haven't reported on that specific aspect of his comment yet.
The second question revolves around the type of knowledge Americans expect from those running to be the Commander in Chief of the United States Military.
Do Americans expect candidates to understand the chain of command and the duties and responsibilities of those they wish to command?
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A thank you to Cynthia and Cassie for reminding me of the The Media Research Center email alert.
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The question here is where is the media on this? Could it be that most of the media don't know the chain of command?
Do Americans expect candidates to understand the chain of command and the duties and responsibilities of those they wish to command?
Most definitely!!!
I or my neighbor might not know the chain of command off the top of our head but I certainly would expect anyone who aspires to be the next president of the U.S. should know it.
Seems like Obama needs some basic history lessons. -
@ Susan Duclos
A thank you to Cynthia and Cassie for reminding me of the The Media Research Center email alert.
You are welcome Sue. I thought of you when I saw it. -
@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
Could it be that most of the media don't know the chain of command?
Most definitely!!!
I or my neighbor might not know the chain of command off the top of our head but I certainly would expect anyone who aspires to be the next president of the U.S. should know it.
Seems like Obama needs some basic history lessons.
I guess so, but it strikes me as odd that he could actually obtain the status of Democratic presumptive nominee for the presidency, without knowing the basic structure of the chain of command.
It isn't like this is a rumor, the video clearly shows him saying the words.
@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
You are welcome Sue. I thought of you when I saw it.
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Great article Sue. Lets hope the usual media outlets pick up on this too. Email it to Drudge lol
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@ Whitdawg
Great article Sue. Lets hope the usual media outlets pick up on this too. Email it to Drudge lol
I am so bad at emailing my own stuff to other bloggers and media. I have emailed maybe 4 pieces to a few bloggers in the last year and 7 months since I have been writing.
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They also militarily advise the President of the United States and the Secretary of Defense with the chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff being a chief military adviser to both.
Bush and those in the Administration, the majority at least, will claim not to be "detail" men/women. A popular cover-your-ass stance, no doubt adopted by many governments.
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Gee-I'm smart enough to know the chain of command, to that makes me think he's not to bright after all.
I also wonder why the media hasn't run amok with this.
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@ skeptikool
Bush and those in the Administration, the majority at least, will claim not to be "detail" men/women. A popular cover-your-ass stance, no doubt adopted by many governments.
Doesn't this make the matter rather semantical?
semantical? No. Anybody that wishes to hold the office of presidnet should at least have some basic knowledge about the job he is applying for.
That is like saying a typist shouldn't need to know a keyboard. Or a police officer truly doesn't need to know how to shoot a gun. Maybe a pilot that doesn't know that they must communicate with air traffic control in order to take off and land safely.
Give me a break.
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@ Debra Myers (skyangel)
Gee-I'm smart enough to know the chain of command, to that makes me think he's not to bright after all.
I also wonder why the media hasn't run amok with this.
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@ Susan Duclos
Eventually one would hope they would notice.
I'm just really shocked that not one single reporter has run with this...something like this would boost their career, I would think. -
@ Debra Myers (skyangel)
I'm just really shocked that not one single reporter has run with this...something like this would boost their career, I would think.
Are you kidding? Be the first to cover the golden one's extreme screwup. That might get them fired. -
If he were President and wanted to end this war, as he has stated, it would be quite in order to give the Joint Chiefs of Staff a new mission: End this illegal war and occupation. Stop the slaughter. Bring the troops home at all speed.
It would be a meeting and order most sane Americans, and others, would approve.
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@ Susan Duclos
Are you kidding? Be the first to cover the golden one's extreme screwup. That might get them fired.
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@ skeptikool
If he were President and wanted to end this war, as he has stated, it would be quite in order to give the Joint Chiefs of Staff a new mission: End this illegal war and occupation. Stop the slaughter. Bring the troops home at all speed.
It would be a meeting and order most sane Americans, and others, would approve.
Now you are showing 1) you didn't bother to look up the chain of command or 2) you don't understand that the Chief of Staff doesn't have operational command over military operations.
You make the perfect example of someone that hasn't a clue how the military works.
Read slow:
chain of command for the United States, the responsibility of conducting military operations goes directly from the President of the United States of America to the Secretary of Defense and straight from there to the Unified Combatant Commands.
Those orders bypass the Joint Chief of Staff completely. The primary responsibility of the Joint Chief of Staff is to ensure the personnel readiness, policy, planning and training of their respective military services for the combatant commanders to utilize. They also militarily advise the President of the United States and the Secretary of Defense with the chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff being a chief military adviser to both.
That is pretty clear. The Joint Chief of Staff advises the President and Secretary of State on what orders to give the Unified Combatant Command...not the other way around. -
@ Debra Myers (skyangel)
True. I had forgot his label! LOL!
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Just a couple points to make... First, that while the joint chiefs of staffs do not run the army, that doesn't disqualify what Obama said. In fact, if you consider the context of the statement it makes complete sense... Did you expect Obama to say he was going to call Robert Gates and tell him a thing or two? Or that he was going to call his secretary of defense who isn't even in power yet? Was he supposed to say that he was planning on talking to Bush's puppet, or a guy he plans on putting in power who would most likely be a 'nobody' to the vast, vast majority of the listening audience?
He surely is implying that he would be informing his sec. of d. of the new mission, but is perhaps also going one step further to say that he would personally let the joint chiefs of staff know what he's thinking, considering his power and their (j.c of s) importance to military operations.
I see in your comments that you are adamant that the j.c. of s. advises the president and s. of d. and not the other way around... but I think you've got it wrong; I think they communicate together, the j.c. of s. provide information and ideas, and that bounces off the president who ultimately makes the decisions...
Secondly, a president surely should know about the basic workings of the military, along with every other major issue facing the US, but that didn't stop Bush 43 from being elected, did it?
(I'm only half kidding there)
I think your disdain for Obama has really been shining through in the past few days - not that it's necessarily a bad thing - this being a good example of that disdain. I think that the reason the media hasn't stormed all over this 'gaffe' is not because Obama is the 'golden boy' so much as because there is really not a big issue here. If it was brought up by a mainstream critic, it would be fairly easy for Obama to respond to.
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Is this as stupid as McLame thinking that Czechoslovakia is still around a decade and a half after it disappeared from the map? Is it nearly as bone headed dumb as McLame's campaign co chairman thinking that the economic woes we see all around us are only figments of our imagination?
"Stupid is as stupid does" and no one does stupid quite as well as McLame--except of course Bush.
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My disdain is for an inexperienced man who is running for the position of commander in chief for a job to which he cannot even correctly identify the chain of command for.
Wiki, just as a reference:
After the 1986 reorganization of the military undertaken by the Goldwater-Nichols Act, the Joint Chiefs of Staff do not have operational command of U.S. military forces. Responsibility for conducting military operations goes from the President to the Secretary of Defense directly to the commanders of the Unified Combatant Commands and thus bypasses the Joint Chiefs of Staff completely.
Today, their primary responsibility is to ensure the personnel readiness, policy, planning and training of their respective military services for the combatant commanders to utilize. The Joint Chiefs of Staff also act in an advisory military capacity for the President of the United States and the Secretary of Defense. In addition, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff acts as the chief military advisor to the President and the Secretary of Defense. In this strictly advisory role, the Joint Chiefs constitute the second-highest deliberatory body for military policy, after the National Security Council, which includes the President and other officials besides the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
So yes, the proper thing to say to show he knew what the hell he was talking about should have been I would tell the "secretary of defense" and give them a new mission, and that is to bring the war in Iraq to a close. We are going to get out"
That is not what he said and trying to excuse his lack of rudimentary knowledge of the chain of command does nothing change that basic fact.
He screwed up, it is that simple.
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@ lensman67
Is this as stupid as McLame thinking that Czechoslovakia is still around a decade and a half after it disappeared from the map? Is it nearly as bone headed dumb as McLame's campaign co chairman thinking that the economic woes we see all around us are only figments of our imagination?
"Stupid is as stupid does" and no one does stupid quite as well as McLame--except of course Bush.
Still not capable of addressing the topic of an article huh?
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@ Susan Duclos
Still not capable of addressing the topic of an article huh?
Figures.
Yes, I am capable of addressing the topic. The topic is your constant anti-Obama propaganda and your need to play "gotcha" over anything he says or does while at the same time turning a blind eye to anything McCain says or does.
If Obama is so stupid for making this tiny gaff just how stupid is McCain for talking about a country that doesn't even exist?
Since we all know that you would not report anything good about Obama nor anything bad about McCain just how much value do you think people should attach to your screeds? -
@ Susan Duclos
My disdain is for an inexperienced man who is running for the position of commander in chief for a job to which he cannot even correctly identify the chain of command for.
Wiki, just as a reference:
So yes, the proper thing to say to show he knew what the hell he was talking about should have been I would tell the "secretary of defense" and give them a new mission, and that is to bring the war in Iraq to a close. We are going to get out"
That is not what he said and trying to excuse his lack of rudimentary knowledge of the chain of command does nothing change that basic fact.
He screwed up, it is that simple.
I would love to see Obama respond..what will he say? He "phrased it badly"...wow, didn't we just hear that excuse?
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@ lensman67
Yes, I am capable of addressing the topic. The topic is your constant anti-Obama propaganda and your need to play "gotcha" over anything he says or does while at the same time turning a blind eye to anything McCain says or does.
If Obama is so stupid for making this tiny gaff just how stupid is McCain for talking about a country that doesn't even exist?
Since we all know that you would not report anything good about Obama nor anything bad about McCain just how much value do you think people should attach to your screeds?
They all seem to do pretty good in traffic and votes so I will let others decide that for themselves.
You want news on McCain, I see your fingers aren't broken.
I bring the news here that others do not seem to, you have that same option, so instead of telling others how YOU think they should write and about what, maybe you should take your own advice.
I will continue writing about items that interest ME and that I hope others will find interesting enough to read, comment on and vote for.
You don't like it? There is a lil X in the top right corner of your screen, I am sure you know how to use it. -
@ lensman67
I would love to see McLame point to Czechoslovakia on a map. ;o)
LOL Maybe he could as who knows how old his maps are. :) -
@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
LOL Maybe he could as who knows how old his maps are. :)
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@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
LOL Maybe he could as who knows how old his maps are. :)
Maybe if he weren't so slow in learning how to use a computer he would have gotten the memo.
If the best that the Cons can come up with is this nit picky "gotcha" garbage then they are admitting that they have lost. If one were to list all the dumb things that McCain has said over the years it would go on for pages. If one were to list all the dumb things that Bush has said, well that would run several volumes.
Which is worse. A person who is not versed in the minutia of military chain of command or one who admits he knows nothing about economics and goes on to prove it by appointing a bozo like Phil "what recession" Graham as his campaign co chair?
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@ lensman67
I would love to see McLame point to Czechoslovakia on a map. ;o)
I would love to see Incompetent-obama say something that he doesn't change his mind about, claim to have phrased poorly or completely just flip flop on, like public financing and FISA.
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@ lensman67
Maybe if he weren't so slow in learning how to use a computer he would have gotten the memo.
Why does he need to see a map on the computer? He probably has maps tacked to the wall of his basement that are still in good condition from a few years back.
Oops sorry some of you folks don't have basements and might not know what they are.
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@ Susan Duclos
I would love to see Incompetent-obama say something that he doesn't change his mind about, claim to have phrased poorly or completely just flip flop on, like public financing and FISA.
Guess we both will never get to see what we want.
Can you name anything that McCain hasn't sold out on, including his opposition to torture? McCain is a political whore who will say whatever he thinks he needs to to get elected.
McCain boldly lies and claims that he has never supported the privatization of Social Security.
Or anything else.
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@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
Why does he need to see a map on the computer? He probably has maps tacked to the wall of his basement that are still in good condition from a few years back.
Oops sorry some of you folks don't have basements and might not know what they are.
They are rooms that are under your house. ;o)
A room under your house? Why would someone put a room under a house? Seems a bit dark and scary. ;o) -
@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
Why does he need to see a map on the computer? He probably has maps tacked to the wall of his basement that are still in good condition from a few years back.
Oops sorry some of you folks don't have basements and might not know what they are.
They are rooms that are under your house. ;o)
I used to hate my basement, it was dark and icky.
Seems people cannot handle when their messiah has been caught comitting a gaffe, but since this article is about Obama, that is the topic I will address.
@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
Could it be that most of the media don't know the chain of command?
Most definitely!!!
I or my neighbor might not know the chain of command off the top of our head but I certainly would expect anyone who aspires to be the next president of the U.S. should know it.
Seems like Obama needs some basic history lessons.
But Cynthia, I thank you for actually addressing the subject and answering the question in the article.
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@ Susan Duclos
I used to hate my basement, it was dark and icky.
Seems people cannot handle when their messiah has been caught having a gaffe, but since this article is about Obama, that is the topic I will address.
WHAT!!!! You mean I can't talk about basements??????????? -
@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
WHAT!!!! You mean I can't talk about basements???????????
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Sorry Sue but I am on a roll. ROLF
Here for Lensman's benefit is what he is missing by not having a basement. :-)
P.S. not a picture of me LOL -
For Lensman's sake if he doesn't know what the poor lady is doing. She is trying to clean up a basement after it has flooded.
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@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
For Lensman's sake if he doesn't know what the poor lady is doing. She is trying to clean up a basement after it has flooded.
You, in Illinois, there was this house that had an unfinished basement in it like that, but after we finished with it, it was separated into 4 rooms, with a bathroom, theater room, carpeting and fireplace and I have to say, a basement when fixed up can be quite pleasant. -
@ Susan Duclos
You, in Illinois, there was this house that had an unfinished basement in it like that, but after we finished with it, it was separated into 4 rooms, with a bathroom, theater room, carpeting and fireplace and I have to say, a basement when fixed up can be quite pleasant.
There are some beautiful basements and it can be very nice as long as you aren't in an area where there is flooding or the potential for flooding. -
@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
For Lensman's sake if he doesn't know what the poor lady is doing. She is trying to clean up a basement after it has flooded.
That is what I can't understand. Why put a hole in the ground if it is only going to fill up with water or boxes full of junk (which I hear roam in packs in the areas where basements are common). ;o) -
@ lensman67
That is what I can't understand. Why put a hole in the ground if it is only going to fill up with water or boxes full of junk (which I hear roam in packs in the areas where basements are common). ;o)
Well when those boxes down there keep piling up and no one can remember what is in them there is a real problem if that basement starts filling up with water.
I think boxes in basements have a close relationship to rabbits.
If they get wet they will most likely have to be tossed especially if the city sewer backs up. That is when you have a major problem. -
@ Susan Duclos
I used to hate my basement, it was dark and icky.
Seems people cannot handle when their messiah has been caught comitting a gaffe, but since this article is about Obama, that is the topic I will address.
But Cynthia, I thank you for actually addressing the subject and answering the question in the article.
It was appreciated.
So Obama made a very little mistake at "Trivial Pursuit." SO WHAT? I suppose there are less important things to make a minor mistake about but I can't think of one at the moment. It is not like misplacing a whole country, not to mention a decade and a half of history.
So what is McCain's excuse for his double talk express, which I notice you carefully avoid addressing.
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OK now that I have managed to get the subject completely off track I am going to leave as my granddaughter is getting married Sat. and the rehearsal is in about an hour.
You all have fun. :)
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@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
There are some beautiful basements and it can be very nice as long as you aren't in an area where there is flooding or the potential for flooding.
I just sent you an email showing you the house I was talking about. What a beauty. -
Nobama did not make a "minor" mistake by saying he would have the Joint Chiefs of Staff "end the war". It shows his absolute idiocy as to what the Joint Chiefs do and who calls the shots.
CENTCOM has Command, not the Join Chiefs.
Nobama is as ignorant as an ignorant individual can get.
On top of that, he has NO clue as to the workings of our constitution which was exhibited by his call for a Civilian National Security Force which, by the way, was scrubbed from his prepared speech.
We have the You Tube video copied and the audio from his You Tube speech as presented.
He has so many gaffes that he scrubs his web site. Simply amazing.
Who ever his pulling his strings has him so confused it is almost sad.
Barack isn't even close to be ready to begin how to learn to be a president of a roach fart factory let alone the leader of the free world.
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Speaking of basements, I've seen them in all flavors! Wet and full of spiders, to dry and having bars and pool tables!
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@ Mark L Harvey
Nobama did not make a "minor" mistake by saying he would have the Joint Chiefs of Staff "end the war". It shows his absolute idiocy as to what the Joint Chiefs do and who calls the shots.
CENTCOM has Command, not the Join Chiefs.
Nobama is as ignorant as an ignorant individual can get.
On top of that, he has NO clue as to the workings of our constitution which was exhibited by his call for a Civilian National Security Force which, by the way, was scrubbed from his prepared speech.
We have the You Tube video copied and the audio from his You Tube speech as presented.
He has so many gaffes that he scrubs his web site. Simply amazing.
Who ever his pulling his strings has him so confused it is almost sad.
Barack isn't even close to be ready to begin how to learn to be a president of a roach fart factory let alone the leader of the free world.
Sorry but that is so piddly trivial that only an absolutely desperate Con would even bother to mention it. It pales to insignificance when compared to the thousands of dumb remarks made by Bush (who has spawned a cottage industry in just keeping up with his gaffs).
I notice that you are carefully tip toeing around McLame's many flip flops and dumb remarks.
Haven't you said that you would vote for McLame but only while holding your nose? I know a lot of the Cons on DJ have expressed that sentiment. Unfortunately for you guys the rest of the country will not hold their nose for four more years of McBush. -
@ Mark L Harvey
Nobama did not make a "minor" mistake by saying he would have the Joint Chiefs of Staff "end the war". It shows his absolute idiocy as to what the Joint Chiefs do and who calls the shots.
CENTCOM has Command, not the Join Chiefs.
Nobama is as ignorant as an ignorant individual can get.
On top of that, he has NO clue as to the workings of our constitution which was exhibited by his call for a Civilian National Security Force which, by the way, was scrubbed from his prepared speech.
We have the You Tube video copied and the audio from his You Tube speech as presented.
He has so many gaffes that he scrubs his web site. Simply amazing.
Who ever his pulling his strings has him so confused it is almost sad.
Barack isn't even close to be ready to begin how to learn to be a president of a roach fart factory let alone the leader of the free world.
You saw that video too? I wonder why he would adlib something like that in when it wasn't in the prepared speech.
Civilian National Security Force, I believe something was mentioned about it it being as large as the Army, Navy, Airforce and Marines put together.
The thing is, that statement and this one in this article shows that he doesn't have the basic knowledge people would expect a nominee for president to have about issues that directly pertain to the military. Considering the president IS the commander in chief OF said military, it makes his remarks far more problematic than the other "badly phrased" items of late. -
Well, I don't really see any point in debating with you as you send out the same arguments regardless of what I try and point out. However, if you feel that military operations abilities are the most important quality for a US president to have, then I can see why you'd be upset with his remark. Now, without looking into this subject to deeply, I do have a question; in saying "I'm going to call in the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and give them a new mission, and that is to bring the war in Iraq to a close" that he meant that he would call them, his advisers, to let them know that the topic of removing the troops should be the primary focus of their studies?
And Sue, you seem to think of Obama as an uninformed idiot, is that about right?
And, just for giggles, what do you think of McCain's handling of the Abramoff scandal?
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@ Susan Duclos
You saw that video too? I wonder why he would adlib something like that in when it wasn't in the prepared speech.
Civilian National Security Force, I believe something was mentioned about it it being as large as the Army, Navy, Airforce and Marines put together.
The thing is, that statement and this one in this article shows that he doesn't have the basic knowledge people would expect a nominee for president to have about issues that directly pertain to the military. Considering the president IS the commander in chief OF said military, it makes his remarks far more problematic than the other "badly phrased" items of late.
That is the sort of trivial garbage that presidents have flunkies for. Do you expect us to believe that Bush or Reagan knew this bit of minutia before one of their assistants told them?
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@ G. Robert M. Miller
Well, I don't really see any point in debating with you as you send out the same arguments regardless of what I try and point out. However, if you feel that military operations abilities are the most important quality for a US president to have, then I can see why you'd be upset with his remark. Now, without looking into this subject to deeply, I do have a question; in saying "I'm going to call in the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and give them a new mission, and that is to bring the war in Iraq to a close" that he meant that he would call them, his advisers, to let them know that the topic of removing the troops should be the primary focus of their studies?
And Sue, you seem to think of Obama as an uninformed idiot, is that about right?
And, just for giggles, what do you think of McCain's handling of the Abramoff scandal?
In certain areas, yes Obama is uninformed which comes from a lack of experience.
McCain screwed up royally in a number of areas, besides Abramoff...for conservatives his support for the immigration reform that failed almost did him and his candidacy in, to which I was one of his biggest critics and still am. Yet, I was able to still respect the fact that he stood for what he believed instead of caving to pander to his base until the vote was had and it didn't pass.
He also screwed up with McCain Feingold.. my criticisms of McCain have been written on my blog.
THIS article is about Obama and his screwup in how he stated his stance, which I maintain showed an incredible lack of understanding about a very basic chain of command which is available at a keystroke. -
fair nuff - good points. Though I would like to know if he could have been suggesting that he would advise them to focus on ways to exit Iraq, rather than ways to 'win' in Iraq
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@ Susan Duclos
In certain areas, yes Obama is uninformed which comes from a lack of experience.
McCain screwed up royally in a number of areas, besides Abramoff...for conservatives his support for the immigration reform that failed almost did him and his candidacy in, to which I was one of his biggest critics and still am. Yet, I was able to still respect the fact that he stood for what he believed instead of caving to pander to his base until the vote was had and it didn't pass.
He also screwed up with McCain Feingold.. my criticisms of McCain have been written on my blog.
THIS article is about Obama and his screwup in how he stated his stance, which I maintain showed an incredible lack of understanding about a very basic chain of command which is available at a keystroke.
A keystroke that McCain is too antiquated to know how to make. ;o)
Still waiting for you to explain McCain's numerous flip flops and political pandering. In case you are trying to forget shall we go to video? -
As for the JCOS:
"their primary responsibility is to ensure the personnel readiness, policy, planning and training of their respective military services for the combatant commanders to utilize. The Joint Chiefs of Staff also act in an advisory military capacity for the President of the United States and the Secretary of Defense"
NObama can task them with whatever he wants to, but it remains their job to advise ony. -
@ Susan Duclos
You saw that video too? I wonder why he would adlib something like that in when it wasn't in the prepared speech.
Civilian National Security Force, I believe something was mentioned about it it being as large as the Army, Navy, Airforce and Marines put together.
The thing is, that statement and this one in this article shows that he doesn't have the basic knowledge people would expect a nominee for president to have about issues that directly pertain to the military. Considering the president IS the commander in chief OF said military, it makes his remarks far more problematic than the other "badly phrased" items of late.
Our on-going exposure of this would-be First Czar Nobama is here and it is gaining strength.
His verbiage in the speech has been scrubbed from his prepared text, just like everything else he gaffes about. -
@ Susan Duclos
In certain areas, yes Obama is uninformed which comes from a lack of experience.
McCain screwed up royally in a number of areas, besides Abramoff...for conservatives his support for the immigration reform that failed almost did him and his candidacy in, to which I was one of his biggest critics and still am. Yet, I was able to still respect the fact that he stood for what he believed instead of caving to pander to his base until the vote was had and it didn't pass.
He also screwed up with McCain Feingold.. my criticisms of McCain have been written on my blog.
THIS article is about Obama and his screwup in how he stated his stance, which I maintain showed an incredible lack of understanding about a very basic chain of command which is available at a keystroke.
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@ Mark L Harvey
Kind of frustrating trying to teach the unteachable, isn't it?
Not really, if they cannot focus on the issue of the article, I ignore them. Some seem to forget that they can write their own pieces if they want to discuss a particular issue but I don't allow myself to be taken in by their distraction techniques simply because they would like to avoid the topic at hand.
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@ Susan Duclos
Not really, if they cannot focus on the issue of the article, I ignore them. Some seem to forget that they can write their own pieces if they want to discuss a particular issue but I don't allow myself to be taken in by their distraction techniques simply because they would like to avoid the topic at hand.
Anyway, repetition is a great teaching tool...lol
I haven't run into any that have the ability to place two coherent thoughts together in one place yet. -
The Senator's flub makes you wonder about the quality of the staff he has to assist him, doesn't it. Think about the number of people who would have reviewed the draft of his remarks.
I agree that he should know the difference and maybe he does and made the slip inadvertently.
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Lens, you once pointed out to me that there were enough Republicans writing about the merits of conservative comments that you didn't need to. I think this is a time for you to taste your own medicine and pen a complementary article about Senator Obama. Perhaps, you can start with a list of his significant accomplishments. It shouldn't take long.
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@ sumdume
Lens, you once pointed out to me that there were enough Republicans writing about the merits of conservative comments that you didn't need to. I think this is a time for you to taste your own medicine and pen a complementary article about Senator Obama. Perhaps, you can start with a list of his significant accomplishments. It shouldn't take long.
ROFL! -
Obama's list accomplishments:
1) fooled all the easily led
2) see #1
3) see #2
4) see #3
5) see #4
6) see #5
That should cover it.
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@ Mark L Harvey
Obama's list accomplishments:
1) fooled all the easily led
2) see #1
3) see #2
4) see #3
5) see #4
6) see #5
That should cover it.
Mark, you left out number 7,
7) No number seven, out to the gym -
Oh darn. I knew I forgot something.
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Read slow: (ly)
Your rudeness was noted. Never miss an opportunity do you, Sue, as you show off and wallow in the stroking?
The mess that is Iraq has occurred while the "chain of command" process has been in place - and was likely exacerbated by it. Should that process ever be challenged? I suggest you check this out:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/2306463/Hitler's-'suicidal-urge'-prolonged-war-by-three-years,-German-historians-say.html
In that case, it was challenged. Admittedly, you had a madman at the helm - a war criminal, if you will. -
Skeptikool,
Please explain how Hitler's insanity is related to Senator Obama's slip of the tongue. Surely, you are not insinuating that Senator Obama is insane!
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