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article imageAuthor: The Web is Making Kids Dumber, Encouraging Them To Ignore World Events

Posted Jul 20, 2008 by  David Silverberg in Internet | 15 comments | 623 views
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Today’s kids aren’t all right, according to the author of The Dumbest Generation. Mark Bauerlein discusses his controversial theory of how the digital age is hurting a child's verbal intelligence.

Digital Journal — “As of 2008, the intellectual future of the United States looks dim.” It’s a scary predictor coming from someone who is on the front lines in academia, watching students shrug their shoulders at books and turn to social networks for their leisure time stimulation. Mark Bauerlein, a professor of English at Emory University, compiled his frustration at young Netizens in his recent book The Dumbest Generation: How the Digital Age Stupefies Young Americans and Jeopardizes Our Future.

The book’s thesis is as blunt as the title: Technology isn’t making youth more astute or knowledgeable; instead it’s dumbing them down to the point where they can name their favourite bloggers but fail to identify past American presidents. Kids might have access to more information than ever before, but they’re not using the Web to search for maps on National Geographic’s site. They are spending their time on Facebook or Amazon or YouTube, and Bauerlein believes this digital obsession will hamper a child’s ability to secure a job in the future.

Bauerlein, 49, says younger generations don’t spend enough time learning about the world at large, writing: “They are latter-day Rip Van Winkles, sleeping through the movements of culture and events of history, preferring the company of peers to great books and powerful ideas and momentous happenings.”

The book has attracted some criticism, notably vilifying Bauerlein as an out-of-touch adult who doesn’t accept technology’s rising role in a teen’s life. But Bauerlein says it’s not about the tech itself, but how to use it. In order to clarify his position, and to point out what parents and educators should do about this problem, Bauerlein spoke to DigitalJournal.com from his Atlanta office.

DigitalJournal.com: You’ve written that the digital revolution is one of the most daunting forces of our time. But you believe kids aren’t taking advantage of the tool available?

Mark Bauerlein: The Internet offers access to miraculous sources of knowledge, art, ideas and so forth. But that’s not what teens are using it for; teens see digital tools as providing them non-stop access to what they care about – each another. They aren’t going to the website of the Metropolitan Museum of Art. They are going to blogs, personal profile pages, chat rooms, game rooms. It’s a nonstop medium of peer pressure.

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: Doesn’t the interaction with these websites foster some talents relating to creativity, design and IT?

Bauerlein: I’ve gone on MySpace, looked at these personal pages and seen a tremendous amount of creativity and imagination. It’s quite remarkable. But I see a lot of energy into making these pages that won’t pay off when they go into workplace. Well, maybe in certain artistic and design jobs.

Look at their sentences on these pages, and you realize their work doesn’t make them into better writers. Will their Web design skills help them write 10-page research papers? It’s about the knowledge factor. These kids are motivated but they don’t have book-ish interests, because they have stopped reading books and are not building up historical knowledge and civic awareness. All these Web tools could go toward those goals.

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DigitalJournal.com: It seems one of your pet peeves is American youth not knowing their history.

Bauerlein: Many people now say “Why do I need to learn history when I can call it up on the Net? Why memorize the Gettysburg Address when I can access it quickly through Google?” The Web is making these materials external. There’s no internal memorization, no sense of someone knowing the Address as part of who they are.

Imagine a college kid today going for a job interview at a law firm with three older lawyers in their 40s. The subject of the Cold war comes up and the student doesn’t know anything about it. That’s not going to look good. And that ignorance will show. These kids need to have opinions about world, ranging from the past to foreign affairs to other situations they will come across in their adult life

DigitalJournal.com: Stephen Johnson’s book Everything Bad is Good For You takes the opposite stance of The Dumbest Generation. Johnson states today’s pop culture – from TV plotlines to immersive video games – actually strengthens someone’s aptitude. Do you agree?

Bauerlein: Johnson is somewhat right. Young kids are more adept in certain superficial ways with technology and artistic forms. When talking about the great complexity of pop culture, here’s big distinction: this kind of sophistication tends to be related to a formal narrative, such as a character in a Simpsons show alluding to something in mass culture only adults under. Or look at plot lines in Seinfeld that circle back. These are forms of irony and parody that are both witty and clever. But I don’t think they account for moral or psychological complexity A lot of older shows, like The Andy Griffith Show, was more morally complex than any Seinfeld episode. An remember Peabody in the Rocky & Bullwinkle series? He goes back in time to talk to Socrates, giving us historical content while also offering a nice dose of irony.

Johnson is OK when he says it makes sense when the increasing visuality of screens and gaming creates higher spatial intelligence. But there are no gains in verbal intelligence.

DigitalJournal.com: In light of your theory, what kind of world leaders and business managers will the digital generation produce?

Bauerlein: We still have “super-kids”, about 10 per cent of the cohort. They do more than five hours of homework per week, shooting for Ivy League colleges, becoming resume builders essentially. This elite group is where future leaders will come from.

But I worry when you get out of this super group, there is a swift fall into a cohort that doesn’t pay enough attention to news, and doesn’t have enough historical knowledge to hold up our current leaders to higher standards. I think the main reason Obama is popular relates to his cerebral approach to words and how he tries to sustain that in a public setting. Youth find that appealing.

DigitalJournal.com: So what should be done about this dumbing-down problem? Is it the responsibility of youth, their parents or educators?

Bauerlein: It’s important for students to have various teachers with different ideas of how to bring technology into the classroom. Bringing blogs into the classroom could improve a student’s writing skills but I like playing the role of the contrary curmudgeon. I’d like my students to turn off their cellphone for five hours in the evening and not even be tempted to call someone or text-message. I want them to be more skeptical of their enthusiasm for technology.

It will undoubtedly be a huge challenge for our stewards of knowledge — teachers, educators, ministers, intellectuals — to get young people to allow tech tools to induce their passion for knowledge.
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  • avatar Posted Jul 20, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #1
    I think Bauerlein is dead on with this.

    Interesting report, David.
  • avatar Posted Jul 20, 2008 by  Chris V. (cgull)
    #2
    Great interview Bauerlein's concerns are true. I hope the educators do something to make them better ready for the future. It is easy for them now thanks to their parents, but will it be the same in the future?
  • skeptikool Posted Jul 20, 2008 by  skeptikool
    #3
    I think many youth suffer an addiction toward the technology that could be damaging to them - not solely youth, of course.

    I have a vision of a bus full passengers all viewing their cellphones or other hand-held, electronic gadgets, not uttering a word to anyone around them.
  • avatar Posted Jul 20, 2008 by  Nikki W (karateblossom)
    #4
    I guess no one hung out in the 60s? When 3/4 of the population was stoned - hey man, lets get high en masse dude because its all about peace...they were highly intelligent individuals. "laughing out loud".

    The best comments are the ones that actually agree but can be found at any given hour on the internet....interesting...
  • avatar Posted Jul 20, 2008 by  Paul Wallis (Wanderlaugh)
    #5
    Hmm. Having just got off a site doing a post for someone around that age bracket on one of my threads looking for good writing sites, I'd say Bauelein has identified the problem, but not the fix.

    What I see are kids who would be articulate if they weren't being given such bone lazy education. That's not really trying. It's perfectly possible for people to get a "good" education in literature, and be able to quote Thomas Mann until they kill someone, and have no clue about how to use the language.

    Anyway, these are teens. What are they supposed to do, join a monastery? Why isn't there a working method of getting through to them without basically nailing them to the floor? Why isn't learning more fun, and less beatup? How are they supposed to know what a language can do, if all they get are these damn management-speak approaches? How many "good outcomes" can you hear about before you throw up?

    It's easy for us, who didn't have that technology, to bitch about their standards. If we'd had it at their age, I'd bet everyone on this site would be doing the same thing, complete with 60s paraphernalia and culture.

    One thing for damn sure. Boring them to death, and trying to stuff them back in the 19th century education techniques most of us were afflicted with, ain't the answer.

    Actually, pre-hippies, the Beats were the really literate people. They were real readers, and real writers. They didn't need a formal process to learn, they needed access to materials. That, I think, is where these guys are missing the boat.

    Another problem is the "nerd" syndrome. "Nerd" wasn't even a word, or an idea, until some corporate dunghill started pushing it. Media is entirely responsible for that.

    What's needed is a reincarnated "intelligent American" culture, not "Heil Morons". All due respect to Bauerlein's obvious concerns and ideas, but without changing the culture, this mess is the inevitable result of that culture.
  • tonystep Posted Jul 27, 2008 by  tonystep
    #6
    Good topic, David. Bauerline, even if over-stating the case, brings up good points. So do his detractors. This is a good debate, because awareness by the public of how best to deal with our new technologies will eventually bear fruit in better implementations. Right now, it's almost all profit driven, which emphasizes fulfilling wants and addictions rather than needs and useful goals. That could change. It's up to us.

    The same technology that allows my grandkids to spend a ridiculous amount of time on a computing or communication device of some kind is also providing them with enormous resources to do their home schooling. Here in Canada, home schooling is really taking off. While this may not be all a good thing, the high report cards are pressuring the school systems to innovate to keep up. That's good. It should make one of the all-around world's best standards of education even better. If we can redirect some of the negative influences highlighted by the likes of Bauerlein, perhaps we can eventually end up with the best outcome. But not if we sit on our laurels and do nothing about it. (Whatever "laurels" are:o)
  • avatar Posted Jul 27, 2008 by  fleetwoodmac
    #7
    I agree are with Niki. Forty years ago people were saying the same thing about television and before that it was radio and music. Those kids!
  • Tony Ryan Posted Jul 27, 2008 by  Tony Ryan
    #8
    A recent survey found that around 90% of Internet surfers who sought knowledge were over the age of 60.

    Under 30s played games and surfed MySpace, YouTube and porn. Apparently, hard data about the world they lived in was not exciting. The people behind experimental site oziz4oziz.com are setting up an internet radio site to take alienated youth back to reality and to provide them with the weapons to reclaim their future.

    I guess only time will tell if Bauerlein's scenario is terminal.

    Tony Ryan
  • lcky9 Posted Jul 28, 2008 by  lcky9
    #9
    Get real, if parents take the time to point the kids in the direction of real news they know more not less since our media doesn't deliver any real news anymore. My kids find the real facts instead of the propaganda they are teaching in the schools now, and they can find it in English. Which would explain the 90% of those over 60 looking for Knowledge on the internet even they know when they are being lied to by our own government and media
  • Tony Ryan Posted Jul 29, 2008 by  Tony Ryan
    #10
    Icky9

    Get real? You are such a smug and uncomprehending prat. Perhaps your kids can teach you to read carefully, then think out what you are going to say.

    The author was making a point that is worrying a great many parents; and also those with a real interest in education. Does it occur to you that many of these are people who have already raised children, who have also been involved in education and information dissemination, and working with the failed product of an education system that is no longer answerable to the electorate.

    I doubt even one of these people regards mainstream media as even vaguely reliable as a source of information, and most would have drawn that conclusion a decade or two ahead of you.

    Yet you jump in with both feet, basing your proud critique on how successful you are as a parent.

    Few surveys of one self-assessed family enjoy analytical credibility.

    More wise, and less self-congratulatory people are more interested in the apparent pattern as it is identified across the full demographic. The harsh reality is that few kids today have much grasp of history or how society today is managed and what criteria one might apply in order to draw a meaningful conclusion about any aspect of life today.

    A major difficulty for contemporary parents is the 20% extra hours both parents need to work today, compared to 50 years ago; time that detracts from family time (ie guiding children on how to use the Internet). Moreover, family incomes are 10% down on what they were in 1960, with a single breadwinner. The vast majority of parents would love to devote more time to their children and they don't need sanctimonious twits like you offering judgemental lectures.

    Finally, just how do you know that what you guide your kids towards are the "real facts"? Most of us just hope like hell information reflects evidential reality. Few of us would be as sure as you; and most of us know the kid's teachers will contradict us anyway. So then we need to consider the implications of subsequent conflict. It is not as simple as you imagine.
  • avatar Posted Jul 29, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #11
    @ Tony Ryan
    Icky9

    Get real? You are such a smug and uncomprehending prat. Perhaps your kids can teach you to read carefully, then think out what you are going to say.

    The author was making a point that is worrying a great many parents; and also those with a real interest in education. Does it occur to you that many of these are people who have already raised children, who have also been involved in education and information dissemination, and working with the failed product of an education system that is no longer answerable to the electorate.

    I doubt even one of these people regards mainstream media as even vaguely reliable as a source of information, and most would have drawn that conclusion a decade or two ahead of you.

    Yet you jump in with both feet, basing your proud critique on how successful you are as a parent.

    Few surveys of one self-assessed family enjoy analytical credibility.

    More wise, and less self-congratulatory people are more interested in the apparent pattern as it is identified across the full demographic. The harsh reality is that few kids today have much grasp of history or how society today is managed and what criteria one might apply in order to draw a meaningful conclusion about any aspect of life today.

    A major difficulty for contemporary parents is the 20% extra hours both parents need to work today, compared to 50 years ago; time that detracts from family time (ie guiding children on how to use the Internet). Moreover, family incomes are 10% down on what they were in 1960, with a single breadwinner. The vast majority of parents would love to devote more time to their children and they don't need sanctimonious twits like you offering judgemental lectures.

    Finally, just how do you know that what you guide your kids towards are the "real facts"? Most of us just hope like hell information reflects evidential reality. Few of us would be as sure as you; and most of us know the kid's teachers will contradict us anyway. So then we need to consider the implications of subsequent conflict. It is not as simple as you imagine.


    Well said, Tony.
  • Tony Ryan Posted Jul 29, 2008 by  Tony Ryan
    #12
    Debra Meyers

    Thanks Debbie

    While I'm here, the author touched on another serious issue that rarely gets addressed... that of mental logic. This is what I originally wanted to comment on.

    Once mankind adopted verbal language, our vocabulary expanded to accommodate subtle but often very important distinctions between abstract concepts. Teachers, in their UN proselytised wisdom, have eliminated a great many of these from youth vocabulary (commencing around 1970), which enables the media to more easily manipulate the conclusions they draw.

    A good example is the reduction of argumentum ad hominem, argumentum non sequitur, and other forms of non-logic, to become represented by the single word generalisation. Thus, kids now believe that a generalisation is unacceptable when in fact it is the second most accurate form of narrative; precise being the highest.

    Compliant pedagogues claim vocabularies have increased, but this is a bit like a bio-scientist describing exotic flora in a pristine woodland as wonderful bio-diversity. True, but absurd.

    Pretty much everyone under 35 today has real difficulty comprehending the difference between believing UN/state dogma and evidential reality; most being unaware there is a difference. This makes personal life choices difficult to grapple with, and totalitarian control by governments a relatively simple achievement.

    I very much doubt our cocksure parent, above, could assist his children here. The blind lead the blind; a consequence that must have Rupert Murdoch smiling.

    Meanwhile, the Internet is very much a two-edged sword. Without intellectual motivation, logic and literacy skills it quickly dismembers the user.

    We are indebted to our inevitably alert David Silverberg for reporting on this critically important issue.
  • tonystep Posted Jul 30, 2008 by  tonystep
    #13
    Any diversification of news reporting - such as this, our citizen reporting - broadens the reported information base, and provides the opportunity for readers to weigh and interpret the world's news. Not that we necessarily are right on the money all the time; we know we are not. But as a group, we don't have the agenda many of the news services have. That gives us a fresh edge, another viewpoint.

    Now, if we can begin to influence our younger generation to take an interest in world events, and to learn to discern the inevitable biases and untruths that pervade much of our news sources, we will be setting the stage for a more balanced, educated society.

    For today's young people, that probably means making a game of some sort out of it.
  • Tony Ryan Posted Jul 30, 2008 by  Tony Ryan
    #14
    tonystep

    Very insightful. A value-added news site is most certainly what is needed.

    For those who are interested, a temporary and experimental site is oziz4oziz.com that explains the essential politico-economic issue confronting Australia, and the means of resolution; and the carrot will be an Internet radio that plays the music of the most alienated 35% of youth; and will be operated by the same kids.

    Music has been the critical banner and uniform of every significant social movement since 1920 and I am hoping I have harnessed this phenomenon. A news site, blog and encyclopaedia of issues will also be components.
  • tonystep Posted Jul 30, 2008 by  tonystep
    #15
    I'm interested in how this plays out for Australian youth. If it shows promising results, it may become a blueprint, or at least a starting point, for future development of a "truth for youth" movement. It might also contain the seeds of the development in young people of an interest in the history and sociology of the world's civilizations. An exciting prospect.

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