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Even though a BBC reporter witnessed the recent bulldozer attack perpetrated by a Palestinian terrorist upon the citizens of Jerusalem, it's website chose to lead with "Israel Bulldozer Driver Shot Dead".
Not to be outdone by its sister in the media, BBC World television coverage lead with the headline: " Breaking News: Israel Attack: Jerusalem bulldozer driver shot dead by security".
Not: " Man Rampages Through Jerusalem With Bulldozer"; or " Man Driving Bulldozer Ploughs Through Pedestrians", or even " Israeli's Mowed Down By Crazed Man Driving A Bulldozer". Nope, once again, those big bad Israeli security forces wreaked havoc against a demented bulldozer driver (who as it turned out just so happened to be a Palestinian) and shot him dead in the streets of Jerusalem.
Apparently the BBC finds that it is more important to report that the security forces shot and killed a man ... a man who, incidentally, was in the process of mowing down pedestrians, buses and cars with his bulldozer at the time.
HonestReporting.com (whose Mission Statement says that it monitors the media, exposes cases of bias, promotes balance, and effects change through education and action against Israel) is reporting that BBC correspondent Tim Franks was at the Jerusalem Capital Studios office, located directly across the street from where the carnage took place and witnessed most of the incident, first hand, from his office window. HonestReporting says:
The BBC can have no excuse for not having the basic facts of the story in front of them from the very beginning.
Israel National News is reporting that the BBC later changed it's headline to read: " Bulldozer rampage hits Jerusalem", without referring to the fact that an Arab was driving the bulldozer or the fact that three Israeli's were killed in the attack. No, it would seem that the BBC found that the story was really about how an inanimate object (the bulldozer) drove itself into Jerusalem and somehow, hit the city. How about "Bulldozer rampage kills three in Jerusalem"? Or, "Palestinian kills three Israeli's in Jerusalem with bulldozer"? I guess those two are just too much like the truth.
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Ignorant schmucks.
Great piece Carolyn.
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Good eye, then again not unexpected from BBC.
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Media bias is a huge problem as far as I am concerned. Of course, it goes both ways but the subtle way that huge mainstream media outlets go about it are really bad.
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What about the fact that every other western corporate-controlled media as well as the author of this piece, has been wrongfully calling this guy a terrorist?
I will say it again, OUR biased media, are the only ones who ignore the reports of DAILY Israeli terror perpetrated against Arab women and children.
Watch CNN International sometime, and you will see the difference.
Israel is a terror state, its about time WE start telling the truth over here.
For the sake of law abiding Israeli's, and the very existence of the State of Israel, we need to cut through this huge propaganda network and educate the west to the atrocities committed by these Nazi-like criminal Zionists in power.
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I'd vote this up if you removed the faulty "terrorist" label, that the Israeli lie machine pinned on this crazy man.
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That's okay Phree I upvoted it. =)
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@ phree
I'd vote this up if you removed the faulty "terrorist" label, that the Israeli lie machine pinned on this crazy man.
You're of the opinion the people witnessing and being attacked where not experiencing terror, then, phree?
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@ Mr Garibaldi
You're of the opinion the people witnessing and being attacked where not experiencing terror, then, phree?
Well then I guess every criminal nut job is a terrorist?
Terrorism - violence or threat of violence for political or idealogical reasons.
By definition this man this man (who acted alone) is NOT a terrorist. At least not that we know of yet.
Also by this definition, Israel is a terror state. As is the US.
Shock and Awe...a.k.a. Terrorism
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@ phree
Well then I guess every criminal nut job is a terrorist?
Terrorism - violence or threat of violence for political or idealogical reasons.
By definition this man this man (who acted alone) is NOT a terrorist. At least not that we know of yet.
Also by this definition, Israel is a terror state. As is the US.
Shock and Awe...a.k.a. Terrorism
Thank you. You gave the exact answer that I had predicted to someone that you would give...a non-answer disguised as a method to continue to preach both anti-American and anti-Semitic rhetoric.
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@ phree
Well then I guess every criminal nut job is a terrorist?
Terrorism - violence or threat of violence for political or idealogical reasons.
By definition this man this man (who acted alone) is NOT a terrorist. At least not that we know of yet.
Also by this definition, Israel is a terror state. As is the US.
Shock and Awe...a.k.a. Terrorism
And what dictionary are you useing? If any..
Terrorism: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion.
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@ RCB2875
And what dictionary are you useing? If any..
Terrorism: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion.
Oh, I'd have to say, I believe running people the hell over with a bulldozer would qualify, wouldn't you think?
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@ Mr Garibaldi
Oh, I'd have to say, I believe running people the hell over with a bulldozer would qualify, wouldn't you think?
Indeed. If it had been written in a convoluted explanation and presented in some elaborate stage play form.. the libs. would have fawned all over it (like an Obama speech) but when put in simple straight forward terms the meaning eludes their delicate elitist minds.
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@ Mr Garibaldi
Thank you. You gave the exact answer that I had predicted to someone that you would give...a non-answer disguised as a method to continue to preach both anti-American and anti-Semitic rhetoric.
I'm not anti-American or antisemetic, and please refrain from using such highly insulting language with me in the future.
As for the non-answer...maybe you should read it again.
@ RCB2875
And what dictionary are you useing? If any..
Terrorism: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion.
And what was systematic about this crime?
And who or what was he trying to coerce?
Terrorism definitions;
in the modern sense, [2] is violence against civilians to achieve political or ideological objectives by creating fear. ...
The systematic use of violence to achieve political ends is not new
The use of - or threatened use of - criminal violence against civilians or civilian infrastructure to achieve political ends through fear and intimidation, rather than direct confrontation. ...
A criminal act that is undertaken with the purpose of achieving political gain. It may or may not be directed against a particular government, and it may or may not be state-sponsored. ...
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes
a violent act in violation of the criminal laws of the United States, which is intended to intimidate or influence the policy of a government.
UN Resolution 1566 gives a definition:
criminal acts, including against civilians, committed with the intent to cause death or serious bodily injury, or taking of hostages, with the purpose to provoke a state of terror in the general public or in a group of persons or particular persons, intimidate a population or compel a government or an international organization to do or to abstain from doing any act.
Oh, I'd have to say, I believe running people the hell over with a bulldozer would qualify, wouldn't you think?
I would think no. Unless he was doing it in order to convince Israel to stop its terror acts on Palestinians.
But we don't know WHY he did it, do we?
Its funny that I get called hateful names online, and face accusations of antisemitism by people who think ALL Palestinians/Muslims/brown people who commit crimes a "terrorists".
BTW - Arabs are semitic people too, in case you didn't know.
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Indeed. If it had been written in a convoluted explanation and presented in some elaborate stage play form.. the libs. would have fawned all over it (like an Obama speech) but when put in simple straight forward terms the meaning eludes their delicate elitist minds.
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OK, phree, what gives? I actually said in my comment above that it goes both way. I will be the first to agree with you. However, me, I am just one small voice in this huge ocean, whereas the BBC? Hardly small
I guess, once again, you agree with the terrorist organizaion Hamas who was quoted today as saying that this shall we say, little act of agression, was a "natural" response to the continued aggression against the Palestinian people in the West Bank and Jerusalem. So you would agree that it is a perfectly natural response to kill a 33-year-old kindergarten teacher, the mother of a five month old baby?
So here we go again, Hamas, the terrorist organization whose Charter states:
Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.
There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.
Yes indeed, for the sake of those law abiding Israeli's ...
(And please, I don't care about the up-vote, just do whatever you feel comfortable with.)
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I'm so glad that the onslaught of DJ by this large group of delusional right-wing fanatics has emboldened certain people to show their true colors after years of denying their Pro-Zionist bias.
For anyone to be so far removed from reality to believe that the media which is completely biased in Israel's favor despite its ongoing immoral, illegal and unconscionable campaign of ethnic cleansing against the Palestinian people is actually biased against it demonstrates, in my view, a pathological aversion to truth or a festering hatred of the Palestinian people or both.
This man was married to a Jewish Israeli woman, a relationship which went sour. Was he targeting only Jews when he randomly attacked people when 1 in 5 people living in Israel are Arab? How would he manage to do that?
For this to be labeled an act of terrorism is inaccurate. Of course since the objective is to do everything possible to malign Muslims and Arabs in order to justify violent actions against them, human excrement like the terrorist pioneers in the Israeli government will spin this as an act of terror to gain sympathy and their sympathizers (read: co-conspirators) will follow suit. This is as much a act of terror as the numerous shootings that take place in the U.S. at schools and places of business. Of course no one comes out and complains about those being acts of terror which demonstrates that behind all the lies and excuses and supposed justification, when you peel away the crap, the facts are all right there to see.
Shit on the Palestinians who's only crime is being victimized by you! History will never forget!
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1. What does Hamas have to do with this?
2. Hamas was voted into power by THE PEOPLE. They are only considered a terror organization by EIGHT (8) countries (3 of which are definite proven state sponsors of terrorism) in the world!! They are a political party with and armed wing. They also tried to stop Fatah militants from firing rockets...but no one mentions that.
3. I guess, once again, you agree with the terrorist organizaion Hamas who was quoted today as saying that this shall we say, little act of agression, was a "natural" response to the continued aggression against the Palestinian people in the West Bank and Jerusalem.
Is that what they said? Cool, it looks like they are right inline with what I was thinking.
YES I AGREE 100%.
Its a horrible crime that was committed, but its natural for people who are being terrorized (having their friends and family murdered all the time) everyday to SNAP sometimes.
All of you;
What would each of you do to someone if they murdered your kids?
I know what I would do.
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@ phree
I'm not anti-American or antisemetic, and please refrain from using such highly insulting language with me in the future.
When your conversation suggests otherwise, I won't point out what is obvious.
Until then, know that this is how you are seen, by others as well as me.
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For everyone else, have a good evening and be safe on the roads over the holiday, those of you in the states.
Make my brother and sister firefighters and EMS happy people because they don't have to be called out.
Nighters :)
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Ahhh, so good to see you Bo. And in such fine form too!
Here he is people, back on one of my threads, making stuff up, insulting me, calling me all kinds of name, and trying to intimidate me by threatening me, to boot. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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@ Carolyn E. Price (gohomelaker)
Ahhh, so good to see you Bo. And in such fine form too!
Here he is people, back on one of my threads, making stuff up, insulting me, calling me all kinds of name, and trying to intimidate me by threatening me, to boot. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Did you expect anything different? You dared call a terrorist..oh MY...a terrorist.
Because this particular terrorist was Palestinian, YOU of course must be biased. Never mind he took a machine and deliberately slaughtered innocent people in an ACT OF TERRORISM.... not as part of battle, not as retaliation for anything specific, but just to murder innocent people.... don't you dare call a spade a spade or you will labeled.
It is no different from what I have seen "certain" people do on multiple threads when they cannot stand to see the truth printed.
It is a good piece, your phrasing was entirely accurate and if "some" cannot see beyond their own antisemitism to acknowledge this was an act of terrorism...screw them, the rest of us can and do.
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Funny, I am looking right at my post and don't see a single reference to you Laker. maybe I was referring to your sister-in-arms Sam?
Could it be that I am just taking a page from your book and being coy?
Yes, I missed you too, I though boycotting you and Sam for just about a year was long enough to make my point about how disappointed I was with you(s).
But now, I'm back as over this time I've watched you emerge from your thorned cocoon and go from the girl who claimed to embrace justice for all and had sequestered herself for so long in the warm cushy center of things at DJ, not venturing out too far to either side of the pole, but only peaking out occasionally, sometimes hopping a step or two to the left wing or to the right but always coming back and sitting in the warm gooey center. But now, emboldened by the raging right-wing freakery that has overtaken DJ like a soft mushy block spot on an otherwise beautiful fruit, slowly with every passing hour infesting its flesh and making its way to the core, you have burst through your egg and spread your languid black velvety wings and alas, become one of those devourers of beautiful fruit. Yes Laker, you are indistinguishable now from them, one and the same.
So disgusted you were by this rampage and the 'biased' reporting that you felt compelled to produce a post about it. But when six year old Mohammed was kidnapped by settlers who sawed his arm off for throwing a rock at an Israeli Occupation Forces Hummer and left him to bleed to death with his haunting eyes open to the sky above as if pleading for help from the heavens that never came, you didn't make a sound. When Israeli colonists flooded Palestinian farmland with untreated sewage, there wasn't a peep out of you. No, we only see your passion to write and feel outraged when acts of injustice are committed against the people you prefer, but when the other team cries fowl, you turn away and tell them they are guilty of being on the wrong side.
Yes, yes, I've read about the rare outrage you express for Palestinian children, but let's be honest, this was not an expression of sympathy as much as it was an opportunity to berate Hamas or the PA.
No, Laker nobody is insulting you.
Just look at this over here and tell me you are reasonable:
So here we go again, Hamas, the terrorist organization whose Charter states:
Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.
There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.
How ironic it is that you are disgusted by HAMAS for SPEAKING about the destruction of Israel when Israel HAS THROUGH ACTION AND NOT WORDS ALREADY DESTROYED THE STATE OF PALESTINE. Israel has founded itself on top of the Palestinain state and the blood of the Palestinian people!
Yes, the Palestinian people are not allowed to feel hatred toward their tormentors, no, their tormentors are to be sympathized with.
This is the twisted logic I am to subscribe to??
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Thanks Sue ... and no, I guess I really didn't (and shouldn't) expect anything different. *sighs*
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@ Susan Duclos
Did you expect anything different? You dared call a terrorist..oh MY...a terrorist.
Because this particular terrorist was Palestinian, YOU of course must be biased. Never mind he took a machine and deliberately slaughtered innocent people in an ACT OF TERRORISM.... not as part of battle, not as retaliation for anything specific, but just to murder innocent people.... don't you dare call a spade a spade or you will labeled.
It is no different from what I have seen "certain" people do on multiple threads when they cannot stand to see the truth printed.
It is a good piece, your phrasing was entirely accurate and if "some" cannot see beyond their own antisemitism to acknowledge this was an act of terrorism...screw them, the rest of us can and do.
Sorry Sue the ol' anti-semitic charge no longer holds any water, been used way too often, too many Jews painting swastikas on their own cars and gravestones have been captured on camera. All Arabs are Semites by the way, Khazars are not however.
Criticizing Israel is not synonymous with anti-semitism, it's just the right thing to do.
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After reading that, I almost feel dirty ...
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@ Carolyn E. Price (gohomelaker)
After reading that, I almost feel dirty ...
Oh stop it. If it hurts you so much I'll have it deleted. I'd prefer if you addressed the points I make though.
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As I was saying before these moon bats have a flair for the dramatics and convoluted nonsense. lol
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@ RCB2875
As I was saying before these moon bats have a flair for the dramatics and convoluted nonsense. lol
Yes, let's all have a laugh. You laugh at my dramatics and I'll laugh at you blissful lack of knowledge and understanding. Convoluted is a big word, oh yes it is, what a good boy your are! Koojy koojy koo. The sweepy twain is chugg-chugg a chugging its way to Louisville. Big wittle boys have to go sweepy time.
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@ Bocephalus
Yes, let's all have a laugh. You laugh at my dramatics and I'll laugh at you blissful lack of knowledge and understanding. convoluted is a big word, oh what a good boy your are , koojy koojy koo. The sweepy twain is chugg-chugg a chugging its way to Louisville. Big wittle boys have to go sweepy time.
Yes it's true.. I have absolutely no knowledge nor understanding of how you and your kind of subverts perform critical thinking with such a deluded train of thought and reason within your self derived little reality. it's like arguing with a preschooler..
koojy koojy koo. The sweepy twain is chugg-chugg a chugging its way to Louisville. Big wittle boys have to go sweepy time.
Yes sir you are at the top of your little class there. lmao
And to think you are well past puberty? Oh dear..
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@ RCB2875
Yes it's true.. I have absolutely no knowledge nor understanding of how you and your kind of subverts perform critical thinking with such a deluded train of thought and reason within your self derived little reality. it's like arguing with a preschooler..
Yes sir you are at the top of your little class there. lmao
And to think you are well past puberty? Oh dear..
Glad we are in agreement, we're getting somewhere.
Now you know how I feel when I have to read you and your buddies posts. I'm reminded of Al Franken's book "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them" every time I set foot in here.
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Please don't have it deleted on my behalf. Me, being coy and all, would just like to know what points it is that you'd like me to address?
I think I've said before, you choose what you want to write about and I choose what I write about. That is the last time I'll say that to you, so please don't ask me again about why I don't scream and rant and rave and wax poetic about Israeli's pulling off kids arms. Why didn't you? Better yet, why do you have to do that here?
I brought Hamas into the question because they were quoted today saying that this recent bulldozer attack should be considered a "natural" response to Israel's aggression against the Palestinian people. Israel is the aggressive one? What part of "Islam will obliterate" Israel is so hard for you to see as a rather aggressive statement. What part of "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad" is so hard for you to understand as aggressive?
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@ Bocephalus
Glad we are in agreement, we're getting somewhere.
Now you know how I feel when I have to read you and your buddies posts. I'm reminded of Al Franken's book "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them" every time I set foot in here.
Good Now go to the mirror and do your daily affirmations and you'll be fine.
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@ Carolyn E. Price (gohomelaker)
Please don't have it deleted on my behalf. Me, being coy and all, would just like to know what points it is that you'd like me to address?
I think I've said before, you choose what you want to write about and I choose what I write about. That is the last time I'll say that to you, so please don't ask me again about why I don't scream and rant and rave and wax poetic about Israeli's pulling off kids arms. Why didn't you? Better yet, why do you have to do that here?
I brought Hamas into the question because they were quoted today saying that this recent bulldozer attack should be considered a "natural" response to Israel's aggression against the Palestinian people. Israel is the aggressive one? What part of "Islam will obliterate" Israel is so hard for you to see as a rather aggressive statement. What part of "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad" is so hard for you to understand as aggressive?
Sorry, I view that as a cop-out.
It's perfectly reasonable to ask why you condemn one type of injustice and glorify another. You yourself have on more than one occasion criticized me for not condemning things you viewed as unjust.
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@ RCB2875
Good Now go to the mirror and do your daily affirmations and you'll be fine.
Lol, good one. you deserve full points on that one.
My daily affirmations are done at the beginning of the day but I'll think of you tomorrow.
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@ Bocephalus
Funny, I am looking right at my post and don't see a single reference to you Laker. maybe I was referring to your sister-in-arms Sam?
Could it be that I am just taking a page from your book and being coy?
Yes, I missed you too, I though boycotting you and Sam for just about a year was long enough to make my point about how disappointed I was with you(s).
But now, I'm back as over this time I've watched you emerge from your thorned cocoon and go from the girl who claimed to embrace justice for all and had sequestered herself for so long in the warm cushy center of things at DJ, not venturing out too far to either side of the pole, but only peaking out occasionally, sometimes hopping a step or two to the left wing or to the right but always coming back and sitting in the warm gooey center. But now, emboldened by the raging right-wing freakery that has overtaken DJ like a soft mushy block spot on an otherwise beautiful fruit, slowly with every passing hour infesting its flesh and making its way to the core, you have burst through your egg and spread your languid black velvety wings and alas, become one of those devourers of beautiful fruit. Yes Laker, you are indistinguishable now from them, one and the same.
So disgusted you were by this rampage and the 'biased' reporting that you felt compelled to produce a post about it. But when six year old Mohammed was kidnapped by settlers who sawed his arm off for throwing a rock at an Israeli Occupation Forces Hummer and left him to bleed to death with his haunting eyes open to the sky above as if pleading for help from the heavens that never came, you didn't make a sound. When Israeli colonists flooded Palestinian farmland with untreated sewage, there wasn't a peep out of you. No, we only see your passion to write and feel outraged when acts of injustice are committed against the people you prefer, but when the other team cries fowl, you turn away and tell them they are guilty of being on the wrong side.
Yes, yes, I've read about the rare outrage you express for Palestinian children, but let's be honest, this was not an expression of sympathy as much as it was an opportunity to berate Hamas or the PA.
No, Laker nobody is insulting you.
Just look at this over here and tell me you are reasonable:
How ironic it is that you are disgusted by HAMAS for SPEAKING about the destruction of Israel when Israel HAS THROUGH ACTION AND NOT WORDS ALREADY DESTROYED THE STATE OF PALESTINE. Israel has founded itself on top of the Palestinain state and the blood of the Palestinian people!
Yes, the Palestinian people are not allowed to feel hatred toward their tormentors, no, their tormentors are to be sympathized with.
This is the twisted logic I am to subscribe to??
Odd; but despite my own knee-jerk tendencies, you seem almost as bigoted to me as the most of the rest of this crowd, Bocephalus...
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I think the title of this article should start with the work 'Opinion'.
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Well presented piece Carolyn.
I truly wish your article hadn't been hijacked by such strong ideology. Lately, it's all one can do to survive attacks rather than discuss content.
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Funny, I am looking right at my post and don't see a single reference to you Laker. maybe I was referring to your sister-in-arms Sam?
Could it be that I am just taking a page from your book and being coy?
Yes, I missed you too, I though boycotting you and Sam for just about a year was long enough to make my point about how disappointed I was with you(s).
Listen I don't give a flying fuck if you are boycotting me. Keep on going. I told you you were anti-American and I meant it, and you have not proven otherwise. You spread hatered against people and you are no different than the Israelis you hate. You are pathetic.
So go back to given me the silent treatment but remember to spray some bugspray on your legs so the ants won't climb up to bite your candy ass.
If you are so worried about the death ratio from palestinians to Israelis' why don't you stop hiding in Canada like a coward and hop a plane over there and teach Hama to aim better and maybe you will feel better about it all.
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Good catch, Carolyn.
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Did DJ change the rules since I have been gone?
I thought you weren't allowed to personally attack people and call them names?
Ya know like antisemitic, moonbats or candy asses...thats sorta thing.
I certainly am not one to call ignorant racist morons names when I disagree with them, even though I truly believe that some people are as stupid as the man who runs their terrorist state of a country, or that they are as blind and cowardly as the cowboys in Iraq that kill civilians for the fuck of it.
I wouldn't bring up the fact that we know that some people are definitely racist against black people by the articles they have written on their personal blog. And I certainly wouldn't mention anyones name...like, Sue... or George, or Gus.
But, if the rules have changed, and we are now allowed to act like complete assholes here on DJ, than someone let me know...cause I don't mind being an asshole back - I can take it...and dish it out.
Thats the way it is in "real life" isn't it? When idiots talk complete BS they get the Pimpsmack laid down on them, like a cracked out, Las Vegas street walking Beeeatch!
Smaccccccccck!
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people should start talking...could vote this one up.
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