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article imageCastle Doctrine: A Means To Make Us Safe Or Is It Vigilantism?

Posted Jul 3, 2008 by  Can Tran (TFactor) in Politics | 9 comments | 308 views
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The decision by the United States Supreme Court in overturning the ban on handguns in Washington DC has had widespread effect. It has brought into question, the Castle Doctrine.
It was only a matter of days that the ban on handguns in Washington DC was overturned by the United States Supreme Court. This ruling has had much profound effect throughout the country. Many other cities are planning to follow suit. Similar suits have been filed in San Francisco, California, and Chicago, Illinois.

The National Rifle Association (NRA) has filed a suit against the city of San Francisco to overturn the ban on handguns in public housing.

However, critics of gun rights have brought up the aspect of suicide. A CDC study shows that most of the gun-related deaths are suicide. 90 percent of gun-related suicides are successful the study had added.

This is just an example on how the overturning of handgun bans can and will be put under further scrutiny.

Now, there is the issue of the Castle Doctrine. This doctrine is a “right-to-defend-yourself” law. Virtually half of the states have passed this law or have their own version of such a law. In the state of Texas, its version of the Castle Doctrine was passed.

This encompasses two things: Your home is your castle. You have the right to defend yourself and your property.

Both points are understandable. Your home should be treated as your mini-castle. You are the “ruler.” You have to protect and maintain it. At the same time, you have to defend the people and things inside from being besieged.

Burglars, rapists, vandals, and so forth can be considered as the invaders laying siege to your castle.

On the issue of gun rights, a further examination of the Castle Doctrine came to light. 62-year-old Joe Horn of Pasadena, Texas is one such person that seemed to have exercised the Castle Doctrine.

This incident had taken place back in November of 2007. Two men broke into the house of Horn’s next door neighbor. They decided to run across Horn’s lawn to escape. It was a bad move on their parts.

Horn dialed 911 about the break-in. On the 911 tape, Horn said to the dispatcher that he was going to kill the two burglars. It is alleged that Horn did just that. Horn is alleged to have stepped outside and peppered the backs of the two burglars with his shotgun. The key word is “alleged.”

On Monday, June 30, the grand jury of Harris County refused to give Horn an indictment.

While a small group came to protest at Horn’s home, they were filtered out by a larger group of bikers and residents. The larger group was chanting the name of the country.

Still, the Castle Doctrine is very popular with many people. This is due to us believing that criminals and other scum have way too many rights. In turn, law-abiding citizens constantly get shafted.

In the case of Horn, the main debate is if the court’s decision not to indict him is the result of the Castle Doctrine or another prior law. Ultimately, it rounds down to how the laws are interpreted. This is where the Judicial Branch comes in. Something like the Castle Doctrine will be interpreted by the courts.

But the main question presented is: Is the Castle Doctrine law meant to allow people to defend themselves or is it a form of vigilante justice?

Further examination of the Castle Doctrine makes it look like a double-edged sword. In this case, you could get a clean shot in or the shot gets deflected back in your direction. If you get the proverbial clean shot in, you’re good. If you don’t, it will hit you where the sun doesn’t shine.

In Horn’s case, two burglars crossed over his lawn. The court ruling was in his favor.

There was another case also in Texas. A man shot his teenage neighbor who he thought was an intruder. The boy was crossing the lawn with a friend. His friend’s mother drove them. Unfortunately, a drunk driver hit them. The mother was killed by the drunk driver. The boy’s injuries became worse.

While the man was safe with the Castle Doctrine, the case got turned over to the grand jury. The man got indicted.

In short, one would ask: Does this law make us safer or does this give motivation to people to take matters into their own hands?

Expect a possible political field day in the future with this one. While the Castle Doctrine itself has merit, there are some bumps present such as the shooting of the teenager perceived to be an intruder.

Ultimately, it will depend on how the Castle Doctrine will be interpreted. Again, that is up for the courts to decide.

Remember, guns don’t kill people. People kill people. As long as reasoning is provided, anything can be used as a weapon. If a person has the intent to kill, then a gun is a killing weapon. If the person has the intent to give a warning, then a gun is a tool to fire a warning shot in the air.
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  • avatar Posted Jul 3, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #1
    Back as a kid, my dad and uncle got their pistol permits so that they could literally wear their guns around the farm. My dad always told me that if anyone ever broke in, let the criminal get all the way inside the house and then blow his kneecaps out. In fact, a deputy sheriff said if things got a little hairy and you had to shoot him outside the door, to pull him inside the house before calling them.

    Never did have to worry about that! In fact, my dad and uncle always chased down gas or cow thieves and then "hog-tied" them until the sheriffs arrived!!!
  • avatar Posted Jul 3, 2008 by  Can Tran (TFactor)
    #2
    I've always had this twisted obsession with shooting targets in the groin.

    Oops, I shouldn't have said that...

    **Sneaks off and finds an Angel halo**
  • avatar Posted Jul 3, 2008 by  RCB2875
    #3
    @ Debra Myers (skyangel)
    Back as a kid, my dad and uncle got their pistol permits so that they could literally wear their guns around the farm. My dad always told me that if anyone ever broke in, let the criminal get all the way inside the house and then blow his kneecaps out. In fact, a deputy sheriff said if things got a little hairy and you had to shoot him outside the door, to pull him inside the house before calling them.

    Never did have to worry about that! In fact, my dad and uncle always chased down gas or cow thieves and then "hog-tied" them until the sheriffs arrived!!!

    my grand parents said the same thing bot my grand fathers said that it was also good to keep a throw away gun just in case the criminal didn't have one! lol

    Regardless of the law If someone tries to break into my house their going to get shot. I have a special 12 gage for that purpose alone because of the sawed off barrel.. just point in the general direction and clik ;)
  • avatar Posted Jul 3, 2008 by  Gar Swaffar
    #4
    Vigilante justice?
    Ok.
    And the problem with that would be......?

    We need to realize as a nation, the poice are no longer able to safeguard us in our homes, on the street, at the mall, in a cafe... etc. etc..

    When a crisis occurs and seconds count, a police person is only minutes away.
    The police can try to find, arrest and contain the criminal. For the court system to turn them loose on the street again.

    But in the meantime, someone has assumed room termperature. I prefer it to be the criminal instigating the ruckus who assumes the lowered temperature.
  • avatar Posted Jul 3, 2008 by  RCB2875
    #5
    It's best to go ahead and kill them.. That way they cant sue you for damages..
  • avatar Posted Jul 3, 2008 by  Can Tran (TFactor)
    #6
    Two words "Death Note."
  • avatar Posted Jul 3, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #7
    @ Can Tran (TFactor)
    Two words "Death Note."


    Exactly. Everyone that I know, whether they have guns in the home or not, feel/think the same way. It's not about (as Mr. G. would say "responsible") gun owners wanting to go out and shoot every Tom, Dick and Harry just for the Hell of it...it's for protecting what is theirs. Even if you do call 911...in some cases, it's going to take more than 10-15 minutes for the police to get there...and if you live rurally...well you can double/triple the response time.
  • avatar Posted Jul 3, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #8
    @ Debra Myers (skyangel)
    Exactly. Everyone that I know, whether they have guns in the home or not, feel/think the same way. It's not about (as Mr. G. would say "responsible") gun owners wanting to go out and shoot every Tom, Dick and Harry just for the Hell of it...it's for protecting what is theirs. Even if you do call 911...in some cases, it's going to take more than 10-15 minutes for the police to get there...and if you live rurally...well you can double/triple the response time.


    Damned straight, and I am well armed, I AM the NRA and I vote, and I can honestly say, I wouldn't have to have a firearm to put the Castle Doctrine to use in my own home...
  • avatar Posted Jul 4, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #9
    @ Mr Garibaldi
    Damned straight, and I am well armed, I AM the NRA and I vote, and I can honestly say, I wouldn't have to have a firearm to put the Castle Doctrine to use in my own home...


    Ditto, Mr. G! We have all kinds of nice, sharp butcher knives...if it ever came down to it..........

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