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article imageOpinion: Stepping in it with Both Feet. Wesley Clark and the Question Who is Smearing Whom?

Posted Jul 1, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi in Politics | 10 comments | 379 views
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There is a long standing tradition of rivalry between the branches of military service. Each branch sees theirs as being superior to the others, and there is a lot of good natured ribbing back and forth in between. When it crosses into politics, though...
Anyone who has been in the U.S. Army among it's ground forces will tell you that aviators are looked upon as the most spoiled and pampered members of the military. While ground troops, especially infantry, armor, and engineers, slog it out in the mud and muck, through forests and jungles, in the desert heat or arctic cold, pilots generally get more cushy, comfortable rear area quarters for their time out of the cockpit.

But there is a price for such "luxury" digs for pilots. Combat pilots have some of the most intense, stressful training and duty of any members of the armed forces, special forces aside. Survival training is intense, with high-stress escape and evasion scenarios included in their training in order to prepare pilots for the worst case scenario; being shot down behind enemy lines.

That is exactly what happened to Senator John McCain in Vietnam, and an injured Lt. Commander McCain found himself in the hands of the enemy, and spent the next several years in the infamous Hanoi Hilton. And yet retired General Wesley Clark, a soldier with who made his early military career in the armored division and with political aspirations of his own, has taken it upon himself to belittle McCain's service record.

Gen. Wesley Clark, acting as a surrogate for Barack Obama’s campaign, invoked John McCain’s military service against him in one of the more personal attacks on the Republican presidential nominee this election cycle.

Clark said that McCain lacked the executive experience necessary to be president, calling him “untested and untried” on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” And in saying so, he took a few swipes at McCain’s military service.

After saying, "I certainly honor his service as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands and millions of others in the armed forces, as a prisoner of war," he added that these experiences in no way qualify McCain to be president in his view:

“He has been a voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee. And he has traveled all over the world. But he hasn't held executive responsibility. That large squadron in the Navy that he commanded — that wasn't a wartime squadron,” Clark said.

“I don’t think getting in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to become president.”


And with that, the gloves came off. McCain supporters blasted Clark, with one McCain surrogate questioning Clark's own record as NATO Supreme Commander in Kosovo and his political ambitions, and McCain responding, when asked if he felt he was owed an apology, "I think it is up to Senator Obama now to not only repudiate him but to cut him loose.” This comment may serve to keep the Clark controversy alive and well for the coming days, dependent upon how Obama handles the situation as time progresses.

For Obama's part, the Senator from Illinois has denounced Clark's statements in an attempt to distance himself from the controversy stating “For those like John McCain who have endured physical torment in service to our country, no further proof of such sacrifice is necessary. And let me also add that no one should ever devalue that service, especially for the sake of a political campaign — and that goes for supporters on both sides.”

It is interesting to note that through all of this, the McCain camp, even prior to Clark's statements this weekend and his attempted clarification (i.e. backpedalling) of what he said, has yet to really pull out the mud in dealing with other candidates. McCain has taken the high road, not playing into the typical dirty tactics that typically comes with Presidential politics. In fact, McCain has been the first to denounce such tactics when they have been attempted on his behalf.

Obama, on the other hand, has already set up his own site to deal with the rumors and innuendo surrounding him personally, possibly in anticipation of the "dirty deeds" of the Republican campaign. The site has already dealt with such issues as his nationality and his religious views, issues that have plagued the Obama campaign from his rock star rise to the top of the Democratic ticket. But what of Obama's own campaign strategies as the election cycle unfolds? The campaign against fellow Democrat Hillary Clinton went into the mud on both sides, a place McCain seems stubbornly determined to stay away from. With Clark's comments regarding McCain, and Obama's seemingly less than whole-hearted denouncement of them, one has to ask, who is truly smearing whom in this campaign?
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  • avatar Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  Gar Swaffar
    #1
    Nobama is finding out he (or his minions) can't sling mud without getting in the mud.
  • avatar Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  Chris V. (cgull)
    #2
    But John McCain was against the Swift Boaters and defended John Kerry. He can't have it both ways. Both of them should discuss the real issues, what are they going to do with economy, fuel prices, wars, these are the ones that are important. All the other issues are just distractions.
  • avatar Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  Samantha A. Torrence
    #3
    But John McCain was against the Swift Boaters and defended John Kerry. He can't have it both ways.


    Honestly Chris that just doesn't make any sense, it seems to be a very consistent position, Don't smear someone's military service. I know you don't like McCain but this is just stretching way too much.
  • avatar Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  Michelle D. (PlanetJanet)
    #4
    ...and we're stuck with Gordon "I'm Scottish and only after getting my own back on bonnie Prince Charlie" Brown....

    It doesn't make sense....
  • avatar Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  Samantha A. Torrence
    #5
    Is it legal for Wesley clark to accept an honorable knighthood?
  • avatar Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  Chris V. (cgull)
    #6
    @ Samantha A. Torrence
    Honestly Chris that just doesn't make any sense, it seems to be a very consistent position, Don't smear someone's military service. I know you don't like McCain but this is just stretching way too much.

    Read this here.

    The irony of it all is that McCain publicly deplored the Swift Boat ads back in 2004, saying they were reminiscent of the smear campaigns launched against him during his initial White House run in 2000.

    "It was the same kind of deal that was pulled on me," said the Senator.

    Not willing to let the irony go unnoticed, Kerry lashed out at McCain, on Monday, for using the same smear merchant he once decried.

    "Colonel Day's comments today only further highlight the McCain campaign's disregard for a new kind of politics," said Kerry. "John McCain condemned these kinds of attacks in 2004 when he called the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth 'dishonest and dishonorable.' Senator McCain should condemn these remarks and cut ties with the Colonel and anyone else connected to SBVT. Day's comments only serve to disparage all those who served on swift boats in Vietnam."


    You say McCain is Mr. Consistent, just read this article here, all of it are his own words.

    As far as my views, I honestly think both of them will bring about the same things, I doubt there will be any change from Bush administration.
  • redhawk Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  redhawk
    #7
    WHO is Obama trying to fool?
    On the day that OILY Clark drops a bomb which is really against the pontificatings and oratory of the Blank Slate Candidate ( at least so he says) our Masked Man in Zanesville proclaims not to condone Clark ( but does he FIRE his ass? NO) and within 12 hours Jimwebb ...Rangel,,, and that Lying Flyier Harkin all are on National tv to also condone OILY and attack Mc Cain.. NOW Which of these Hypocrites is interviwing for VP on the Barry Ho ticket???
    And if Barry claims to be a new type of politician ( Oh yeah when PIGS Fly) he needs to also throiw them under the same bus that he has used so many times....This is a travesty on honest policy.It was all planned and executed!
    Any 2 year old knows the Good Cop.. Bad Cop game.. BUT MC Cain needs to drop a few MOABS on the Skull of the Blank Slate man just to get some attention from the MSM and the Intellectually and morally void talking heads!!!
  • avatar Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #8
    @ Samantha A. Torrence
    Is it legal for Wesley clark to accept an honorable knighthood?


    Yes. An honorary knighthood is a way of saying "if you were one of our countrymen, we would bestow the full title upon you, but since you are not, we bestow upon you the honor of knowing that we accept you as one."

    Kind of like an honorary doctorate, you don't really have an doctoral degree, just the Ph.D (Hon) that you can can sign at the end of your name.
  • redhawk Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  redhawk
    #9
    @ Mr Garibaldi
    Yes. An honorary knighthood is a way of saying "if you were one of our countrymen, we would bestow the full title upon you, but since you are not, we bestow upon you the honor of knowing that we accept you as one."

    Kind of like an honorary doctorate, you don't really have an doctoral degree, just the Ph.D (Hon) that you can can sign at the end of your name.

    NEED to ad the tag.. FRAUD.. to his paperwork..
  • redhawk Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  redhawk
    #10
    @ Chris V. (cgull)
    Read this here.

    You say McCain is Mr. Consistent, just read this article here, all of it are his own words.

    As far as my views, I honestly think both of them will bring about the same things, I doubt there will be any change from Bush administration.


    Exactly.. Obama is moving so fast to adopt W's policies that he has left Mc Cain behind!!!

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