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Posted Jul 1, 2008 by  Susan Duclos in Health | 20 comments | 336 views
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Tomatoes, after being assumed to be responsible for an outbreak of Salmonella, were pulled from fast food chains, off of grocery shelves and people were scared to eat them. Now health officials admit that tomatoes may not have been the original problem.
800 plus Americans, across 36 states and Washington, D.C have become sick in an outbreak of infections from Salmonella, 95 of them having to be hospitalized, since early April. It was announced early that indicators pointed toward tomatoes as being the cause, but last Friday health officials admitted that tomatoes might not be the culprit and they further acknowledge that they may never uncover the original cause of the outbreak.

Fast food chains, including McDonalds, and grocery stores pulled tomatoes off their shelves and menus, people refused to purchase tomatoes from fear of becoming sick and yet according to David Acheson who is the associate commissioner with the Food and Drug Administration confirms that out of 1,700 domestic and international tomato samples that were collected, none has tested positive for Salmonella.

With that said, Tomatoes are said to have a "strong association" and are still "suspect" but health officials cannot confirm that it is tomatoes that are responsible for the Salmonella outbreak.

On a conference call with reporters, the chief of the CDC's Enteric Diseases Epidemiology Branch, Patricia Griffin says, "We don't have any evidence that whatever the source is, it's been removed from the market."

But investigators are looking at other foods that might have been eaten along with raw tomatoes, especially produce items in foods commonly consumed by outbreak victims, such as pico de gallo, guacamole and fresh salsa.

Consumers were still getting sick as recently as June 15, just 12 days ago. On average, it takes 16 days to get laboratory confirmation of a food borne illness, Griffin said. That means it's too soon to tell if the outbreak is winding down.


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Map of areas where Salmonella infections have been reported.
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(Since April, 851 persons infected with Salmonella Saintpaul with the same genetic fingerprint have been identified in 36 states and the District of Columbia. These were identified because clinical laboratories in all states send Salmonella strains from ill persons to their State public health laboratory for characterization. The number of ill persons identified in each state is as follows: Arkansas (10 persons), Arizona (39), California (10), Colorado (11), Connecticut (4), Florida (1), Georgia (18), Idaho (3), Illinois (91), Indiana (11), Kansas (14), Kentucky (1), Maine (1), Maryland (29), Massachusetts (21), Michigan (6), Minnesota (2), Missouri (12), New Hampshire (3), Nevada (4), New Jersey (4), New Mexico (90), New York (26), North Carolina (5), Ohio (6), Oklahoma (19), Oregon (10), Pennsylvania (8), Rhode Island (3), Tennessee (6), Texas (346), Utah (2), Virginia (22), Vermont (2), Washington (4), Wisconsin (6), and the District of Columbia (1).)

The Food and Drug Administration has cleared 41 U.S. states, including California; several Mexican states; and parts of Florida and David Acheson adds that "The longer this goes on, the less likely it's all originating from a single farm source," he goes on to say, "It's possible this investigation will not produce a smoking gun. We need to look at all possibilities. We need to reexamine all the information."

For now, the advice about the tomatoes has remained the same: Roma, plum and red round tomatoes from cleared states and grape, cherry and vine tomatoes from all areas were safe to eat.

While keeping much information about foods that are still being investigated, it is being reported that pico de gallo, guacamole and fresh salsa are being "looked into" as other items that were consumed by outbreak victims.

(Although the original articles quote 810 people infected by the Salmonella outbreak, the Center for Disease Control (CDC), updated two days ago and that number shows 851.)

More on Salmonella from the CDC here and updates on the investigation can be found here.
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  • avatar Posted Jul 1, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #1
    I saved this for the comment section because it is just my opinion, but if tomatoes end up not being the original cause, I have to wonder how much damage this has done to those that grow and sell tomatoes as a living.
  • avatar Posted Jul 1, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #2
    @ Susan Duclos
    I saved this for the comment section because it is just my opinion, but if tomatoes end up not being the original cause, I have to wonder how much damage this has done to those that grow and sell tomatoes as a living.


    A considerable amount, that's why they're not coming outright and saying "oops, we dropped the ball on this one, folks, still looking to see what it really was." Their lawyers would have MASSIVE STROKES if they did that.
  • avatar Posted Jul 1, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #3
    I would assume so. But I feel for the tomato growers. They have suffered considerably and to find out that none of them tested positive so far...is just sad.
  • avatar Posted Jul 1, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #4
    @ Susan Duclos
    I would assume so. But I feel for the tomato growers. They have suffered considerably and to find out that none of them tested positive so far...is just sad.


    Yes it is, very sad. And irresponsible on the part of the government to leave things hanging like this.
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Jul 1, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #5
    As the Alzheimeric-in-chief frequently said:
    Government is not the solution. Government is the problem.

    Or the libertarian mantra:
    Smaller Government
    ...
  • avatar Posted Jul 1, 2008 by  Whitdawg
    #6
    Damn ! You are hard working. Thanks and goodnight (its past 1am here). Catcha 2mora.
  • avatar Posted Jul 1, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #7
    @ Whitdawg
    Damn ! You are hard working. Thanks and goodnight (its past 1am here). Catcha 2mora.


    Sleep well. Yeah, I run a blog as well so I keep busy with multiple pieces a day.
  • sumdume Posted Jul 1, 2008 by  sumdume
    #8
    As the Alzheimeric-in-chief frequently said:
    Government is not the solution. Government is the problem.

    Or the libertarian mantra:
    Smaller Government


    Are you saying that we need a bigger government?
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Jul 1, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #9
    @ sumdume
    Are you saying that we need a bigger government?

    I'm saying that leaving the enforcement of regulations in the hands of those we we need to be regulating may not be working as well as all of the knot-heads since 1981 have pretended to expect...
  • avatar Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #10
    Good follow-up, Sue and good comments as well! It's very disturbing to know that the reason for the salmonella still isn't know...that's like throwing a coin in the air to decide whether you're going to get sick eating whatever or not.
  • avatar Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #11
    @ Debra Myers (skyangel)
    Good follow-up, Sue and good comments as well! It's very disturbing to know that the reason for the salmonella still isn't know...that's like throwing a coin in the air to decide whether you're going to get sick eating whatever or not.


    I agree. It is kind of strange that they haven't found the cause yet, and it makes me wonder why they automatically assumed it was tomatoes OR reported that it was if now they are saying the tests haven't found any in the tomatoes.

    Very strange.
  • avatar Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #12
    @ Susan Duclos
    I agree. It is kind of strange that they haven't found the cause yet, and it makes me wonder why they automatically assumed it was tomatoes OR reported that it was if now they are saying the tests haven't found any in the tomatoes.

    Very strange.


    It IS strange.
  • avatar Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  Bob Ewing
    #13
    how much damage this has done to those that grow and sell tomatoes as a living.
    considerable and may even stretch beyond tomatoes and harm other fresh food businesses.
  • avatar Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #14
    @ Bob Ewing
    considerable and may even stretch beyond tomatoes and harm other fresh food businesses.

    I agree. They need to get a handle on this and although I know they are testing, how much time has been wasted before they started testing other produce?
  • avatar Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #15
    @ Susan Duclos
    I agree. They need to get a handle on this and although I know they are testing, how much time has been wasted before they started testing other produce?


    Probably after many, many get sick through eating something else.
  • avatar Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  Bob Ewing
    #16
    @ Susan Duclos
    I agree. They need to get a handle on this and although I know they are testing, how much time has been wasted before they started testing other produce?

    This is a real concern, stating that the source is not known and may not be known is bad for business, but at least public assurance that testing has expanded to include other produce may help ease public fears.
  • avatar Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #17
    @ Bob Ewing
    This is a real concern, stating that the source is not known and may not be known is bad for business, but at least public assurance that testing has expanded to include other produce may help ease public fears.


    Very true and there are pros and cons there as well. They cannot risk ruining other businesses and farmers lives by telling people exactly what else is suspected, yet if they have any ideas, they may keep people from getting sick by telling the public.. rock meet hard place.
  • avatar Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #18
    @ Debra Myers (skyangel)
    Probably after many, many get sick through eating something else.


    Unfortunatel the numbers are proving you right. The investigation page linked at the end of the article shows that NOW, 869 persons infected with Salmonella Saintpaul ..... as of the previous update it was only 851.

    Here is the page that gives their advice to consumers.

    This shows that they are still using tomatoes as their likely source, even though none have tested positive by their own account in the reports linked above.

    To me this indicates they do not have a clue and are just being cautious because they do not have any idea what else it could be.

    That is worrisome.
  • avatar Posted Jul 2, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #19
    Exactly. Okay, can I expect to get sick now...since we had tacos last night for supper...with fresh--store bought--tomatoes and fresh iceburg lettece? We all feel fine, BTW.
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Jul 3, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #20
    Who do you think should be checking on this problem?

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