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article imageBob Barr Offers The Real Choice of Liberty To The Voters

Posted Jun 29, 2008 by  Dave G. (TruthMan) in Politics | 19 comments | 183 views
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Bob Barr has a new campaign ad that offers hope to the American electorate. In a nutshell, the word is ''liberty.'' Curtailing the growth of government and respecting individual rights. Not treating ordinary citizens like suspects.
Libertarian presidential hopeful Bob Barr has launched a new campaign ad that conveys the inadequacies of Obama and McCain and shows the voters that you don't have to vote for the lesser of two evils.
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  • avatar Posted Jun 29, 2008 by  Michael Billy (TRA)
    #1
    Sure, Obama and McCain are inadequate, but so is Barr. This is just another attack ad and it is pathetic coming from the Libertarian Party's candidate.

    Obama overly uses buzzwords like 'change' in his ads and Barr is using 'liberty' and 'freedom' without giving anything to backup his claims. He had a seven minute opportunity with this video to put his proposals out there, but instead he uses more than half of the time to attack his opponents and the rest to throw out rhetoric about 'freedom' and 'liberty' without backing it up. Its pathetic.

    I used to expect better from the LP, but not anymore.
  • avatar Posted Jun 29, 2008 by  lensman67
    #2
    I highly recommend that every "true" conservative in the country vote for "bug man" Barr. This will help assure an Obama victory. ;oP

    Barr is right, of course, a vote for him would not be a vote for the "lesser" of two evils but rather for the greater evil. ;o)
  • avatar Posted Jun 29, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #3
    I didn't watch the video as not interested in watching a seven minute video from a politician who would never be elected anyway.
    It will be either McCain or Obama.

    To me voting for Barr or Goofy or Donald Duck, by the way people do vote for those last two and the votes have to be recorded, is a waste.
  • avatar Posted Jun 29, 2008 by  Dave G. (TruthMan)
    #4
    @ Michael Billy (TRA)
    Sure, Obama and McCain are inadequate, but so is Barr. This is just another attack ad and it is pathetic coming from the Libertarian Party's candidate.

    Obama overly uses buzzwords like 'change' in his ads and Barr is using 'liberty' and 'freedom' without giving anything to backup his claims. He had a seven minute opportunity with this video to put his proposals out there, but instead he uses more than half of the time to attack his opponents and the rest to throw out rhetoric about 'freedom' and 'liberty' without backing it up. Its pathetic.

    I used to expect better from the LP, but not anymore.


    I believe that he has other videos where he puts specific proposals out there for you to see. It's a free country and everyone is entitled to his opinion.
  • avatar Posted Jun 29, 2008 by  Dave G. (TruthMan)
    #5
    @ lensman67
    I highly recommend that every "true" conservative in the country vote for "bug man" Barr. This will help assure an Obama victory. ;oP

    Barr is right, of course, a vote for him would not be a vote for the "lesser" of two evils but rather for the greater evil. ;o)


    Why would voting for Barr be a greater evil?
  • avatar Posted Jun 29, 2008 by  Dave G. (TruthMan)
    #6
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    I didn't watch the video as not interested in watching a seven minute video from a politician who would never be elected anyway.
    It will be either McCain or Obama.

    To me voting for Barr or Goofy or Donald Duck, by the way people do vote for those last two and the votes have to be recorded, is a waste.


    I hope that you're wrong but you shouldn't complain about McCain or Obama when there are other people running for the presidency. If his name is on the ballot in your state, you have the opportunity to vote for him. Voting for Barr isn't a wasted vote. It's a vote for Barr.
  • avatar Posted Jun 29, 2008 by  Michael Billy (TRA)
    #7
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    To me voting for Barr or Goofy or Donald Duck, by the way people do vote for those last two and the votes have to be recorded, is a waste.


    I couldn't disagree with this more. To me, a wasted vote is a vote for someone you do not agree with. If a person agrees with Barr's policies over McCain's or Obama's, then they should vote for Barr.
  • avatar Posted Jun 29, 2008 by  Dave G. (TruthMan)
    #8
    @ Michael Billy (TRA)
    I couldn't disagree with this more. To me, a wasted vote is a vote for someone you do not agree with. If a person agrees with Barr's policies over McCain's or Obama's, then they should vote for Barr.


    I agree with you sir!
  • avatar Posted Jun 29, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #9
    @ Dave G. (TruthMan)
    I hope that you're wrong but you shouldn't complain about McCain or Obama when there are other people running for the presidency. If his name is on the ballot in your state, you have the opportunity to vote for him. Voting for Barr isn't a wasted vote. It's a vote for Barr.


    @ Michael Billy (TRA)
    I couldn't disagree with this more. To me, a wasted vote is a vote for someone you do not agree with. If a person agrees with Barr's policies over McCain's or Obama's, then they should vote for Barr.


    I see a wasted vote not in the sense that you are seeing it.
    I see it is a wasted vote because there is no way that he will or can win.
  • avatar Posted Jun 29, 2008 by  Dave G. (TruthMan)
    #10
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    I see a wasted vote not in the sense that you are seeing it.
    I see it is a wasted vote because there is no way that he will or can win.


    If people think like you do, he can't win. If Barr's name is on the ballot in Connecticut, I'm voting for him and Barr will receive one vote from me. Unless the scanner machine doesn't record votes for Barr. I can't do anything about that.
  • avatar Posted Jun 29, 2008 by  Michael Billy (TRA)
    #11
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    I see a wasted vote not in the sense that you are seeing it.
    I see it is a wasted vote because there is no way that he will or can win.


    Which is kind of my point. Is a vote not more wasted if it is cast for someone you disagree with? A 'lesser of two evils' if you will.
  • avatar Posted Jun 29, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #12
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    I see a wasted vote not in the sense that you are seeing it.
    I see it is a wasted vote because there is no way that he will or can win.


    Exactly my thinking Picasso and I understand what you mean perfectly, Of course we would all like to vote for someone we agree with but to vote for some who has NO chance of winning, to me is denying the reality of the fact that one of the two major candidates are going to win and nothing more than a "protest" vote.

    People can explain it anyway they want, but they are protesting those that will win by voting for someone who by simple virtue of being able to add to and two, everyone knows cannot win.

    Hence the term wasted vote.

    Then again our history is full of people that will knowingly vote for a candidate that they understand has no way of winning.

    Nothing new and yet none of those people won and the people that wasted their vote stayed unhappy with who was voted in.
  • avatar Posted Jun 29, 2008 by  lensman67
    #13
    @ Dave G. (TruthMan)
    Why would voting for Barr be a greater evil?

    I did not say that voting for Barr would be a greater evil. What I said is that Barr IS the greater evil.

    But don't let that stop you. By all means PLEASE throw your vote away on him. ;o)
  • avatar Posted Jun 29, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #14
    @ Dave G. (TruthMan)
    If people think like you do, he can't win. If Barr's name is on the ballot in Connecticut, I'm voting for him and Barr will receive one vote from me. Unless the scanner machine doesn't record votes for Barr. I can't do anything about that.


    No matter what you want he cannot and will not won. Those are the facts.

    I myself don't know anything about him.

    If he is on the ballot his vote or votes will be counted.
    Every vote counts even the written in ones have to be recorded.
  • avatar Posted Jun 29, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #15
    @ Michael Billy (TRA)
    Which is kind of my point. Is a vote not more wasted if it is cast for someone you disagree with? A 'lesser of two evils' if you will.


    Is there anyone that a person can agree with 100%?

    As Sue said why "waste" your vote on someone who CANNOT win. So with that in mind if you are going to vote voting for the lesser of "two evils" is still the way to go.
  • avatar Posted Jun 30, 2008 by  Michael Billy (TRA)
    #16
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    Is there anyone that a person can agree with 100%?

    As Sue said why "waste" your vote on someone who CANNOT win. So with that in mind if you are going to vote voting for the lesser of "two evils" is still the way to go.


    So what if the choices were Hitler and Stalin? Should you only vote for one of them if they were the only major candidates?
  • avatar Posted Jun 30, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #17
    @ Michael Billy (TRA)
    So what if the choices were Hitler and Stalin? Should you only vote for one of them if they were the only major candidates?


    No, I wouldn't vote in that case.

    If it had come to that we probably wouldn't be able to vote anyway.
  • avatar Posted Jun 30, 2008 by  Michael Billy (TRA)
    #18
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    No, I wouldn't vote in that case.

    If it had come to that we probably wouldn't be able to vote anyway.


    Not necessarily true. Hitler was elected.
  • avatar Posted Jul 4, 2008 by  Dave G. (TruthMan)
    #19
    Bob Barr, Ralph Nader or any other minor party or independent candidate can win if their name is on the ballot. If enough people vote for them; they can win. Who keeps telling the American people that they can't win? Members of the Republican and Democratic Parties who don't want any competition and members of the media who just want a contest between the two major party candidates.

    People have to open their minds and stop listening and believing this garbage about wasted votes. If minor party candidates weren't running and on the ballot; I wouldn't vote.

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