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article imageBullying Barack Obama About Hillary Clinton As VP Choice

Posted Jun 8, 2008 by  Susan Duclos in Politics | 22 comments | 2145 views
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Barack Obama has been getting pressure from Clinton supporters, groups, politicians and the media to choose Hillary Clinton as his vice presidential running mate. Obama pushes back telling everyone to "settle down".
Barack Obama says he will not be "pressured" and "everybody needs to settle down" in regards to his choice of VP and that he has gathered a team to help him vet candidates for that spot.

There are some out there that believe they can steam roller right over Barack obama and by sheer force of will force him to choose Hillary Clinton.

Some are Hillary Clinton backers, yet other Clinton supporters want no part of that type of ticket.

Others pushing include a group called VoteBoth who tout 25,000 signatures on their petition. That is spearheaded by Lanny Davis who is a is a lawyer and former Special Counsel to the President for Bill Clinton and a Hillary Clinton supporter.

They also list a number of politicians and others that are pushing for Barack Obama to choose Hillary Clinton.

Recently reports have come out saying that Hillary Clinton would be "open" to the proposal if Barack obama should decide to ask her, but she has said she is not actively campaigning for the spot.

Earlier reports said that Bill Clinton was pushing for Obama to choose Hillary as his running mate.

Democratic politicians are also pushing Obama, like Dianne Feinstein, DLC Chair Harold Ford Jr., Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, Rep. Jerrold Nadler, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, Rep. Charles B. Rangel, Gov. Ed Rendell, Rep. David Scott, Sen. Ken Salazar, Sen. Charles Schumer, etc... that is simply a few, there are many more politicians trying to push Obama into picking Hillary Clinton.

Multiple media outlets have been running story after story regarding Clinton for Obama's running mate and while some bloggers and pundits, ardent Clinton supporters are doing the same, others are not eager to see an Obama/Clinton ticket in November.

CNN interrupted its programming with a bulletin about Clinton’s sudden readiness to join forces with Obama. Clinton supporters – including those on the call, like Charlie Rangel and Jose Serrano – touted her statement and talked publicly of the incomparable value she’d supposedly bring to an Obama-led ticket. And pundits hashed over the subject of the “dream ticket” for hours, with more than a few wondering aloud whether Obama really has any choice but to offer the spot to Clinton.


Robert Johnson, founder of Black Entertainment Television, has been reported to have written the Congressional Black Caucus, asking them to "push Obama to choose Clinton."

Bloggers
and pundits, who have supported Hillary Clinton, are also trying to exert pressure on Barack Obama to choose Clinton as his VP choice, in posts and articles they write day after day, explaining why Obama would be foolish not to pick Clinton.

A recent Gallup poll showed that over 50 percent of Democratic respondents think that Barack Obama should pick Hillary Clinton, and 34 percent think he should pick someone else.

On the other side of the issue there are those that want no part of an Obama/Clinton ticket, such as former president Jimmy Carter who stated that Obama picking Hillary Clinton as VP "would be the worst mistake that could be made".

Mayor Thomas M. Menino, Boston, Mass. believes that Clinton as vice president would be a mistake and his reasoning is Bill Clinton.

Just as Gallup shows that over 50 percent of Democratic supporters want Obama to pick Clinton, a Pew Research Center report shows that Obama supporters, by 54 percent do not want him to choose Clinton as his running mate.

Other Obama supporters think an Obama/ Clinton ticket would be a "nightmare" ticket and not a "dream ticket".

The politicians named in that article are Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.), Rep. Lacy Clay (D-Mo.), Rep. Jim Cooper (D-Tenn.), Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.), and House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.).

Some Clinton supporters push at Obama to choose Clinton, the media has been touting the "dream ticket" since before Obama became the official presumptive nominee and some die hard Clinton supporters are also pushing.

On the other side of Obama, his supporters that got him where he is today are weary and pushing him not to pick Clinton, for a variety of reasons, and congressional politicians, depending on who they originally supported are all pushing and pulling at Obama.

Obama says to "settle down" but will the pressure be too much to fight against?

Will he allow himself to be bullied in what is supposed to be "his choice"?

As his new vetting team of Jim Johnson, Caroline Kennedy, and Eric Holder, start making the rounds on Capitol Hill on Monday and Tuesday to interview senators and members of Congress about their recommendations, expect the media, the bloggers, the pundits and the politicians to continue to browbeat Barack Obama into doing what they want, whether the individuals want Clinton chosen on the ticket or not, each side will be sniping at Barack Obama to do what "they" want, instead of allowing him the time to do what "he" wants.
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  • avatar Posted Jun 8, 2008 by  Dave G. (TruthMan)
    #1
    Senator Obama has to decide this for himself.
  • avatar Posted Jun 8, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #2
    @ Dave G. (TruthMan)
    Senator Obama has to decide this for himself.


    That is the kicker though. Being that superdelegates CAN change their vote (although it is doubtful they would dare) up until the August convention, if they put enough pressure on him, he risks seeing a fight on the convention floor if he doesn't accept their "guidance" aka bullying.

    He needs them and only a fool would think he wouldn't weigh them and their wants into his decision. They are making sure of it.
  • avatar Posted Jun 8, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #3
    Here is an example of the pushing from "some" Clinton supporters:

    I'd like to interrupt this Unity Day message with a small reminder to the Barack Obama campaign and the Democratic Party - unless he picks Hillary Clinton as his running mate - the day he announces his Vice Presidential candidate will be a day of disunity.

    I hope someone is thinking about that. Because since today is "Why Hillary Lost" Day in the Media, they need to remember that Hillary Clinton got half of the votes. Yes, she lost . . . barely. Obama is in a tight race with John McCain and needs a unified Democratic Party and if he is set on NOT picking Hillary Clinton as his VP, I hope he has a plan for re-unifying the Party the day after he insists on NOT unifying, indeed, in dividing the Party by not choosing Hillary Clinton as his VP.


    That is from Talk Left, big Clinton supporter and she has been issuing those types of "threats" every single week.

    It is a shot across the bow, warning Obama they will not be happy with him and he will "lose" if he doesn't pick Hillary.

    Threatening him doesn't seem productive.
  • avatar Posted Jun 8, 2008 by  Dave G. (TruthMan)
    #4
    These people are petty and foolish. Do they really want John McCain to win?
  • avatar Posted Jun 8, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #5
    @ Dave G. (TruthMan)
    These people are petty and foolish. Do they really want John McCain to win?


    I think it's more along the lines of that they despise Obama SO MUCH they're willing to endure a McCain win to keep Obama out of the White House.
  • avatar Posted Jun 8, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #6
    In the last two days I have been to hundreds of Hillary sites and while some DO hate Obama with a passion, others truly say he simply isn't qualified and they believed that Clinton and McCain are...so if Clinton wasn't chosen, they are going to McCain.

    No racism in most the comments I am seeing, but many are angry about Michigan, angry that all poll show that Obama received far more positive media coverage than Clinton or McCain, they see that Obama fought against Michigan being counted OR having fair do-overs to accurately see who deserved how many delegates...but most of Clinton supporters in the comment sections, name policy issues, lack of experience, associations, lack of honesty and multiple other reasons they have for refusing to vote for Obama.

    TalkLeft has been pitching her as VP since they came to terms with the fact that she wasn't going to receive the nomination.
  • avatar Posted Jun 8, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #7
    Interesting.



    hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
  • avatar Posted Jun 8, 2008 by  Michelle D. (PlanetJanet)
    #8
    go get em Obama...
  • avatar Posted Jun 8, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #9
    Even as I wrote about last night, Rev. Jesse Jackson is also saying that Clinton would make a strong vice president.

    Obama needs to not listen to a lot of what is being said but weigh who would make the best vice president for him to be able to work with.
  • avatar Posted Jun 8, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #10
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    Even as I wrote about last night, Rev. Jesse Jackson is also saying that Clinton would make a strong vice president.

    Obama needs to not listen to a lot of what is being said but weigh who would make the best vice president for him to be able to work with.


    Peeking in from my pool time, I agree, but politics wise, he must consider the superdelegates "opinions" aka pressure, or risk losing the Clinton superdelegates.

    The saving grace for him is that many of his supporters will not accept Clinton as a choice which means that those of her supporters that also find it unacceptable have a supporting bloc.

    I might not have been a Clinton supporter, but I have to give kudos to her for her courage and strength in the primaries, fighting overwhelmingly negative media coverage.

    I think it is only fair and just to acknowledge the strength she showed in this primary race.

    Back to the pool for me,....bbl
  • avatar Posted Jun 8, 2008 by  Nikki W (karateblossom)
    #11
    her so-called readiness is such a political morning after pill. makes me wanna vomit. i entertained, stupidly, the thouught of a female prez but she is a power hungry ruthless freak.

    the only thing she wants is the payoff of an assasin to kill obama should he become president!

    she is bad news and her on the ticket is political suicide for obama...literally
  • avatar Posted Jun 8, 2008 by  RCB2875
    #12
    @ Nikki W (karateblossom)
    her so-called readiness is such a political morning after pill. makes me wanna vomit. i entertained, stupidly, the thouught of a female prez but she is a power hungry ruthless freak.

    the only thing she wants is the payoff of an assasin to kill obama should he become president!

    she is bad news and her on the ticket is political suicide for obama...literally

    Obama and Clinton in the White House would make a nifty game of Clue. ;)
  • avatar Posted Jun 8, 2008 by  Nikki W (karateblossom)
    #13
    lol R! who dunnit. ms lewinsky with candlestick in the library or chelsea with epitaphs in blue room. :~)
  • avatar Posted Jun 8, 2008 by  Nikki W (karateblossom)
    #14
    sorry epithets...my t9 at its best
  • avatar Posted Jun 9, 2008 by  Chris V. (cgull)
    #15
    Since McCain loves her and she him, maybe she can run as Vice President for McCain. :)
  • avatar Posted Jun 9, 2008 by  Sheba
    #16
    @ Nikki W (karateblossom)
    her so-called readiness is such a political morning after pill. makes me wanna vomit. i entertained, stupidly, the thouught of a female prez but she is a power hungry ruthless freak.

    the only thing she wants is the payoff of an assasin to kill obama should he become president!

    she is bad news and her on the ticket is political suicide for obama...literally

    I was of the opinion that she as his running mate is the only way he could win the White House. For some reason my opinion has changed and I must agree that this woman will be a liability to Obama if he makes her his running mate...and the thought of her becoming pres if Obama gets knocked off does things to one's stomach that makes one wants to throw up - and the chances of this man being assassinated or at least attempts to assassinate him are so high that he has had secret service protection from earlier on.
  • avatar Posted Jun 9, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #17
    @ Chris V. (cgull)
    Since McCain loves her and she him, maybe she can run as Vice President for McCain. :)


    Wouldn't that be a kick int the ass as well as make heads on the far right and the far left, explode.

    Moderates, Independents, conservative Democrats and liberal Republicans might react well though.

    The extremists on both sides of the aisle would have a cow...LOL
  • avatar Posted Jun 9, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #18
    Wow...this is going to really be interesting to see how this all ends up. Quite the photo, I might add!!!
  • avatar Posted Jun 9, 2008 by  Nikki W (karateblossom)
    #19
    @ Sheba
    I was of the opinion that she as his running mate is the only way he could win the White House. For some reason my opinion has changed and I must agree that this woman will be a liability to Obama if he makes her his running mate...and the thought of her becoming pres if Obama gets knocked off does things to one's stomach that makes one wants to throw up - and the chances of this man being assassinated or at least attempts to assassinate him are so high that he has had secret service protection from earlier on.

    I agree Sheba, I agree.
  • avatar Posted Jun 9, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #20
    @ Nikki W (karateblossom)
    I agree Sheba, I agree.


    As do I.
  • avatar Posted Jun 9, 2008 by  Nikki W (karateblossom)
    #21
    @ Susan Duclos
    Wouldn't that be a kick int the ass as well as make heads on the far right and the far left, explode.

    Moderates, Independents, conservative Democrats and liberal Republicans might react well though.

    The extremists on both sides of the aisle would have a cow...LOL

    Certainly change up the way things have been - new and well, maybe improved. ack.
  • avatar Posted Jun 9, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #22
    @ Debra Myers (skyangel)
    Wow...this is going to really be interesting to see how this all ends up. Quite the photo, I might add!!!


    Thanks, hunting the pics are half the fun.

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