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article imageNorth Carolina Colleges Close Doors On Illegal Aliens

Posted May 13, 2008 by  Sue D. in Education | 10 comments | 419 views
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The North Carolina Community College System has just announced that they will no longer admit illegal immigrants into their schools. The decision will not affect the 112 illegal immigrants who have already enrolled.
One week ago the community college system was sent a letter from the North Carolina Office of the Attorney General that recommended that they reverse its policy of allowing illegal and undocumented immigrants to be admitted into degree programs.

According to the North Carolina Community College System statement in regards to this issue, in December of 2007 they sent a letter to the Attorney General to seek clarification about a System Numbered Memo, dated November 7, 2007, that had been sent to all 58 community colleges mandating they admit illegal aliens at the out-of-state tuition rate.

That rate is calculated to equal 140% of what it costs the state to provide a full-time education to one student. The November directive was the result of the NCCCS interpretation of an earlier Attorney General advisory letter that said community colleges could not impose nonacademic criteria for admission, which supported the “open door” policy of the NCCCS.

In the May 6 letter, the Office of the Attorney General advised the NCCCS to return to the directive in System Numbered Memo 01-271, dated December 21, 2001, that prohibits undocumented students from taking curriculum degree classes.


The The North Carolina Community College System also met with officials from the Attorney General's Office to discuss the issue.

"We have accepted the Attorney General's offer to seek federal clarification of this issue, and they are pursing that information," Scott Ralls, president of the community college system, said in a news release. "Until we receive further clarification, we will no longer admit individuals classified as illegal or undocumented immigrants into curriculum degree programs."

The community college system opened the door to illegal immigrants in November when its general counsel, David Sullivan, issued an edict that the system's 58 schools allow illegal aliens to enroll at the out-of-state tuition rate. Sullivan has since moved to the general counsel's job at Fayetteville Technical Community College.


The information they refer to that is being pursued is the assertion from Governor Mike Easley (D) and ICE officials who have stated that the system in allowing illegal aliens into their degree programs did not break any federal laws.

Americans for Legal Immigration (ALIPAC) is commending the state Attorney General, Roy Cooper, and the NC Community College System for barring illegal aliens from colleges after a lengthy public debate.

According to William Gheen from ALIPAC, "This ruling by the NC Attorney General could have a far reaching national impact. Many states are allowing illegal aliens to attend their colleges at full price and a few are even forcing taxpayers to foot the bill with in-state tuition. Other states are going to notice NC's precedent and move to follow our lead."

Gheen continues, "We must turn off all incentives for illegal aliens and access to American colleges is clearly an incentive for illegal alien families to come here. There are plenty of colleges back in their home countries they can attend. American workers and American students need every seat in college today in America. Many of our states are facing huge budget deficits and need to keep the focus on American and legal immigrant students."

ALIPAC is credited for playing a key role in defeating in-state tuition for illegal aliens in NC in 2005.

In the memo that the President of the North Carolina Community College System, R. Scott Ralls, sent out to Community College Presidents, Community College VP/Deans of Instruction, Community College VP/Deans of Student Development, Community College VP/Deans of Continuing Education, Community College Admissions Officers and Community College Registrars, it says that local community colleges should follow the guidance provided in the December 21, 2001 Memorandum CC01-271.

They then provide the relevant quotes from the 2001 Memeorandum:

Federal Law, 8 USC Section 1621 makes most undocumented or illegal aliens ineligible for most state or local public benefits. Post secondary education is one of those benefits that undocumented or illegal aliens are not eligible to receive. Federal Law, 8 USC Section 1641 makes an exception for some illegal aliens who have been subjected to extreme cruelty or battered and who meet other conditions set forth in this section.


The memo goes on to give 3 specific exceptions to the rule.

In the North Carolina Community Colleges System statement, Ralls also says, "We asked the Attorney General’s Office for clarification of our present policy and will abide by their advice."

The North Carolina Office of the Attorney General has requested guidance from the Office of the Secretary of Homeland Security about the legalities of admitting illegal aliens into college degree programs, but until further clarification is obtained, 58 North Carolina colleges will no longer be admitting any illegal aliens or people without proper documentation that proves that they are in this country legally.
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  • avatar Posted May 13, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #1
    Ok, it bears to be asked: considering that you have to present valid identification and credentials for entering college to begin with, what the HELL are they doing allowing illegals in in the first place?
  • avatar Posted May 13, 2008 by  Sue D.
    #2
    No clue how that second directive could have ordered them to accept students without documents in the first place. I highly doubt the AG will advise them to let them back in.
  • avatar Posted May 13, 2008 by  Samantha A. Torrence
    #3
    There are some illegal kids who deserve our compassion. A young kid who stayed here after his mother overstayed her visa has a specialty in robotics and want the best education possible here in America.
    Here is the article. He gets to stay after all.
  • avatar Posted May 13, 2008 by  Sue D.
    #4
    @ Samantha A. Torrence
    There are some illegal kids who deserve our compassion. A young kid who stayed here after his mother overstayed her visa has a specialty in robotics and want the best education possible here in America.
    Here is the article. He gets to stay after all.


    I am all for exceptions to the rule if the rule is enforced. There are always exceptions to which compassion should be shown, but to spend 140% more on an illegal alien that what is needed to pay in state tuition for people here legally, is ridiculous.
  • avatar Posted May 13, 2008 by  Samantha A. Torrence
    #5
    I quite agree S.D., you know me and that devil's advocate thing I tend to do. lol
  • avatar Posted May 13, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #6
    @ Samantha A. Torrence
    I quite agree S.D., you know me and that devil's advocate thing I tend to do. lol


    I love when people play advocate for me... ;)
  • avatar Posted May 13, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #7
    @ Samantha A. Torrence
    There are some illegal kids who deserve our compassion. A young kid who stayed here after his mother overstayed her visa has a specialty in robotics and want the best education possible here in America.
    Here is the article. He gets to stay after all.


    OK he gets a free education? What about American citizens who cannot afford to go to college. How about helping them out?

    He was on the school robotics team and couldn't go with them to the Robotics Championship. He WAS here illegally for crying out loud why should he go to the championship if he should not be here in the first place.

    I do not believe that illegal ALIENS should get a free pass for anything except to be sent back home.

    Check this out and believe me it just raised my blood pressure.
    http://scholarship.online-free.org/?q=scholarship%20for%20undocumented%20immigrant&sid=Yahoo_KD5
  • avatar Posted May 13, 2008 by  Samantha A. Torrence
    #8
    Oh beleive me I get upset about the whole illegal immigrant free pass thing, but there are instances where some should have compassion shown to them. I believe I saw a personal interview with this kid who regretted his decision to be an illegal and really wanted to be an American. He wants to add to the country not demand entitlements. At least he now has a visa. I hope I remember that interview correctly and that he was sincere.

    I am applying for scholarships right now, think I should apply for that one and pretend I am illegal? lol
  • avatar Posted May 13, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #9
    @ Samantha A. Torrence
    Oh beleive me I get upset about the whole illegal immigrant free pass thing, but there are instances where some should have compassion shown to them. I believe I saw a personal interview with this kid who regretted his decision to be an illegal and really wanted to be an American. He wants to add to the country not demand entitlements. At least he now has a visa. I hope I remember that interview correctly and that he was sincere.

    I am applying for scholarships right now, think I should apply for that one and pretend I am illegal? lol


    Yes Sam you might get it easier.
    Which ticks me off that illegals can get more stuff free than U.S. citizens.. YOU ARE entitled to a free ride much more then anyone who is here illegally.
  • avatar Posted May 14, 2008 by  LewWaters
    #10
    What? No ILLEGAL immigrants to take the subjects Americans won't take?

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