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article imageBarack Obama Denounces Jeremiah Wright, But Is It Too Little Too Late?

Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  Susan Duclos in Politics | 33 comments | 730 views
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Barack Obama just finished making a speech where he discussed Jeremiah Wright's latest public comments and he denounces the comments and has harsh words for the man himself. Is this too little, too late?
When Jeremiah Wright's racist, anti-American sermons came to the light of day and were blasted from one end of the Internet to another, via video, showing his words coming from his mouth, Barack Obama had a chance to disown and denounce the words and the man, but some pundits said he did not go far enough on either front to make a difference or to stop the associations from people that made the point that if Barack Obama sat in a pew listening to his pastor, Jeremiah Wright, for almost 20 years, on some level he must have agreed with those beliefs.

After the firestorm started, Barack Obama took to the airwaves and televisions sets, and tried to distance himself from the words of his pastor, while still saying Wright was "like family to me."

Obama took it a step farther in his speech, and said:

I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother – a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.


I asked at the time if Obama went far enough or if he simply rationalized Wright's rhetoric and that refusal to disavow, disown and completely sever those ties with Wright, has just came back to bite Obama...hard, as Wright makes the rounds in more highly public appearances and speeches.

Jeremiah seemed to lie low for a while, but recently he has made a slew of public appearances, seeming to suggest that the only reason Barack Obama was distancing himself at all was because it was politically expedient.

Wright made comments like, "Politicians say what they say and do what they do because of electability. He had to distance himself because he's a politician...Whether he gets elected or not, I'm still going to have to be answerable to God."

Other of Wright's recent comments were covered at length in the news yesterday, and instead of toning his rhetoric down, Wright seems to have stepped it up a notch or two, which had bloggers and pundits all over, declaring that Obama had to disown the man himself.

But what he said today extemporaneously, the way in which he said it, the unrepentant manner in which he reiterated some of his most absurd and offensive views, his attempt to equate everything he believes with the black church as a whole, and his open public embrace of Farrakhan and hostility to the existence of Israel, Zionism, make any further defense of him impossible. This was a calculated, ugly, repulsive, vile display of arrogance, egotism, and self-regard:


Barack Obama just made a speech I caught on television (I will provide the transcript when it is available), where he finally denounces the man, not just the words.

A few of Obama's comments are, "The person I saw yesterday was not the person that I met 20 years ago. His comments were not only divisive and destructive, but I believe that they end up giving comfort to those who prey on hate, and I believe that they do not portray accurately the perspective of the black church.

They certainly don’t portray accurately my values and beliefs."


An other strong statement from Obama when he says, "If Reverend Wright thinks that’s political posturing, as he put it, then he doesn’t know me very well and based on his remarks yesterday, I may not know him as well as I thought either.”

One of the strongest and clearest denunciations yet from Obama was when he said, "I gave him the benefit of the doubt in my speech in Philadelphia, explaining that he has done enormous good in the church. But when he states and then amplifies such ridiculous propositions as the U.S. government somehow being involved in AIDS; when he suggests that Minister Farrakhan somehow represents one of the greatest voices of the 20th and 21st century; when he equates the U.S. wartime efforts with terrorism – then there are no excuses. They offend me. They rightly offend all Americans. And they should be denounced, and that’s what I’m doing very clearly and unequivocally here today."

Reactions to Obama's speech today are varied as Talk Left head lines with "Obama Live Press Conference on Wright: Throws Wright Under the Bus", and Andrew Sullivan titles his with, "Obama Divorces Wright," and that is just two of the first reactions.

The comments from Jeremiah Wright are not new, not unheard and simply reinforced what was said in the original videos of his sermons, yet it has taken months for Obama to realize that Wrights words and statements do not match Obama's own belief systems?

The questions that voters will have to answer for themselves are whether this denunciation of Wright is too little, too late and is it real or was it done for political expediency?

[Update] Transcript of Barack Obama's remarks regarding Jeremiah Wright.
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  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  David Silverberg
    #1
    I thought this would happen eventually. It's all summed up in this tidbit from his speech.
  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #2
    @ David Silverberg
    I thought this would happen eventually. It's all summed up in this tidbit from his speech.


    MAN, if I could have found that before activating, I would have added it!!! Thanks.
  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #3
    I caught the last part of the speech.
    In my mind at this time I think it is too late.

    We have heard Wright's speeches and they have lately seemed to me to be "in your face" toward Obama.

    I can understand Obama not wanting to turn against his pastor and friend. But what was at stake here was the presidency of the U.S. which is not just about blacks as Wright seems to want it to be. It is about all the citizens of the U.S.

    Obama should have seen where this was going long before this.
  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  Helena Handbasket
    #4
    Great coverage Susan.

    I believe this is a response to the continuous negative attention Wright has been paid. Self-serving on Obama's part. I'm sure his campaign originally told him .... "this too shall pass" ... but, it didn't. Obama's mistake is being a member of that church, and being mentored by a despicable reverse racist with a destructive agenda. He waited until Wright spanked his bum before this denouncement was made. That says it all.

    Too little, too late? Methinks yes. I will say the same if he denounces his Muslim/NOI buddies as well at this late date. I'm sure his handlers have told him those associations and their importance will dissipate. But again .... they won't. Too late BHObama.
  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #5
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    I caught the last part of the speech.
    In my mind at this time I think it is too late.

    We have heard Wright's speeches and they have lately seemed to me to be "in your face" toward Obama.

    I can understand Obama not wanting to turn against his pastor and friend. But what was at stake here was the presidency of the U.S. which is not just about blacks as Wright seems to want it to be. It is about all the citizens of the U.S.

    Obama should have seen where this was going long before this.


    Not only that, but Obama has twice previously admitted to "poor judgment" and now this makes a third recent case of bad judgment on Obama's part, best case scenario, so people will also have to ask themselves if they are willing to vote for a man that shows consistently bad judgment about people.
  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #6
    He admittedly has said that he has showed poor judgement about some people which makes one wonder how much has he been influenced by these people.
  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #7
    @ Helena Handbasket
    Great coverage Susan.

    I believe this is a response to the continuous negative attention Wright has been paid. Self-serving on Obama's part. I'm sure his campaign originally told him .... "this too shall pass" ... but, it didn't. Obama's mistake is being a member of that church, and being mentored by a despicable reverse racist with a destructive agenda. He waited until Wright spanked his bum before this denouncement was made. That says it all.

    Too little, too late? Methinks yes. I will say the same if he denounces his Muslim/NOI buddies as well at this late date. I'm sure his handlers have told him those associations and their importance will dissipate. But again .... they won't. Too late BHObama.


    Thanks Helena. I agree, as soon as those videos emerged in the spot light, Obama could have limited the damage by severing ties. People still would have asked why wait for almost 20 years, but at least he would be on record doing it.

    To wait for months, then only do it after Wright slams him.... doesn't look good at all.


    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    He admittedly has said that he has showed poor judgement about some people which makes one wonder how much has he been influenced by these people.


    Great point.... he said James Meeks, senator and pastor was one of his "spiritual" guides and his videos recently surfaced and he sounds a lot like Wright. Obama said he misjudged Rezko, but until after it was proven his association was closer that obama first admitted and that more money was taken than originally admitted as well.

    He has a long line of questionable associations and after a while people have to ask themselves if it was bad judgment or if they aren't the type of people Obama likes!

    It is a fair question, a legitimate concern and one that Obama has not addressed at length.

    He was asked that very question about judgment in the Q & A portion and he directly address his bad judgment.
  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  Nikki W (karateblossom)
    #8
    Too late? I cannot say. Bammy man, I'm sure, felt he was being PC in his 1st response to hothead rev. anti-everything not black and not muslim 'wrong'!

    This time, he has made a stance against rev wrong and we'll see how his supporters feel about it.

    As far as the presidency, I do not believe it makes a difference....the 2 cannot stop w/ the baby stuff anyway and their credibility as national leaders for the undecided is probably more fargone than just one incident w/ this hateful religious zealot.

    great coverage!!
  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  Brant David McLaughlin
    #9
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    I caught the last part of the speech.
    In my mind at this time I think it is too late.

    We have heard Wright's speeches and they have lately seemed to me to be "in your face" toward Obama.

    I can understand Obama not wanting to turn against his pastor and friend. But what was at stake here was the presidency of the U.S. which is not just about blacks as Wright seems to want it to be. It is about all the citizens of the U.S.

    Obama should have seen where this was going long before this.


    Amen. David's video post shows a man who is doing nothing more than the most facile, superficial political posturing as Wright, like a jilted lover, takes to the airwaves attempting to discredit Obama's discrediting of him.

    Obama's gasping for air now.

    And it's still not enough. After all, Obama would have to denounce his very own book to do this justice.
  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #10
    @ Nikki W (karateblossom)
    Too late? I cannot say. Bammy man, I'm sure, felt he was being PC in his 1st response to hothead rev. anti-everything not black and not muslim 'wrong'!

    This time, he has made a stance against rev wrong and we'll see how his supporters feel about it.

    As far as the presidency, I do not believe it makes a difference....the 2 cannot stop w/ the baby stuff anyway and their credibility as national leaders for the undecided is probably more fargone than just one incident w/ this hateful religious zealot.

    great coverage!!


    Thank you and good points.



    @ Brant David McLaughlin
    Amen. David's video post shows a man who is doing nothing more than the most facile, superficial political posturing as Wright, like a jilted lover, takes to the airwaves attempting to discredit Obama's discrediting of him.

    Obama's gasping for air now.

    And it's still not enough. After all, Obama would have to denounce his very own book to do this justice.


    That certainly isn't going to happen.
  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #11
    @ Brant David McLaughlin
    Amen. David's video post shows a man who is doing nothing more than the most facile, superficial political posturing as Wright, like a jilted lover, takes to the airwaves attempting to discredit Obama's discrediting of him.

    Obama's gasping for air now.

    And it's still not enough. After all, Obama would have to denounce his very own book to do this justice.


    Lets see, Obama has spent most of his time fighting Clinton. It looks like now that time will need to be divided between fighting Clinton and the Wright reverend which he is not.
    A little attempt at humor there. :-)
  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  Samantha A. Torrence
    #12
    About 20 years,one marraige, two baptisms, and a lifetime of exposing kids to brainwashing racist segregationsit and hateful sermons too late.
  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #13
    @ Samantha A. Torrence
    About 20 years,one marraige, two baptisms, and a lifetime of exposing kids to brainwashing racist segregationsit and hateful sermons too late.


    Right on the money, Sam!
  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  Johnny Simpson
    #14
    Sus, I've written countless article here at DJ on Wright, Trinity UCC, even terror fundraiser Hatem el-Hady, who switched from campaigning for HAMAS to Obama.

    This guy el-Hady makes Bill Ayers look like an ice cream truck driver. It's already on a lot of major blogs.

    Maybe Hillary's saving that one for a rainy day. I know she has it. I emailed a link to her campaign, LOL!

    I love guerrilla journalism, don't you?

    Besides, what could possibly be wrong in promoting your own work at the highest levels?

    IMHO I think Obama is carrying WAY too much baggage now to win in the general. Funny thing about politics, though. You just never know.

    See what happens.
  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #15
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    Lets see, Obama has spent most of his time fighting Clinton. It looks like now that time will need to be divided between fighting Clinton and the Wright reverend which he is not.
    A little attempt at humor there. :-)


    I found it amusing..heh



    @ Samantha A. Torrence
    About 20 years,one marraige, two baptisms, and a lifetime of exposing kids to brainwashing racist segregationsit and hateful sermons too late.


    Yes and people are expected not to notice that he denounced the man only after the man slammed him.

    What about the 17+ years he spent listening to this man in church?
  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #16
    @ Johnny Simpson
    Sus, I've written countless article here at DJ on Wright, Trinity UCC, even terror fundraiser Hatem el-Hady, who switched from campaigning for HAMAS to Obama.

    This guy el-Hady makes Bill Ayers look like an ice cream truck driver. It's already on a lot of major blogs.

    Maybe Hillary's saving that one for a rainy day. I know she has it. I emailed a link to her campaign, LOL!

    I love guerrilla journalism, don't you?

    Besides, what could possibly be wrong in promoting your own work at the highest levels?

    IMHO I think Obama is carrying WAY too much baggage now to win in the general. Funny thing about politics, though. You just never know.

    See what happens.


    I think he is too but at this point the party itself is in a corner. Obama has the delegate count and popular vote. If the superdelegates decide he cannot win the general and hand it to Clinton, Obama supporters, many of them young, new and energetic as the energizer bunny will have their batteries taken right out and probably won't vote for Hillary. They will feel the superdelegates stole it from Obama.

    Talk about digging a hole you cannot get out of...the party is in that hole and no matter what they choose, half the party supporters are going to be some highly peeved people.

    MK, slap the link to your piece here if you want...let people read even more about Obama's questionable associations.
  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  Helena Handbasket
    #17
    I love guerrilla journalism, don't you?


    Oh yes I surely do, and I'm never disappointed in DJ's jungle.
  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  T.A.Torrence
    #18
    @ Susan Duclos
    Not only that, but Obama has twice previously admitted to "poor judgment" and now this makes a third recent case of bad judgment on Obama's part, best case scenario, so people will also have to ask themselves if they are willing to vote for a man that shows consistently bad judgment about people.

    I couldn't agree more, not to mention the obvious dishonesty in such statements.
  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  LewWaters
    #19
    I nearly choked hearing Reverend Wright fall back on his service in the Marines. While no doubt his service was honorable and with distinction, that was then, this is now.

    Obama wanting to discredit him now is laughable and meaningless. He defended him with his 'like a crazy uncle you don't always agree with' comment a few weeks ago.

    You don't attend a Church for 20 years and not know what the Pastor says.
  • avatar Posted Apr 29, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #20
    @ LewWaters
    You don't attend a Church for 20 years and not know what the Pastor says.


    No you don't and you would not have your children attending a church where you do not approve of what they were learning.
  • avatar Posted Apr 30, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #21
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    No you don't and you would not have your children attending a church where you do not approve of what they were learning.


    Exactly. Which means his denouncing Wright at this moment is nothing but politics. I don't believe for a second that he doesn't subscribe to Wright's rhetoric, if he didn't, he wouldn't have stayed at that church.
  • skeptikool Posted Apr 30, 2008 by  skeptikool
    #22
    What war do you think Reverend Wright was referring to when he equated U.S. military action with terrorism? Not the "good" war, surely?

    Obama claims the terrorism remark was offensive to Americans, but if he was referring to the war against Iraq, many would not argue against the Reverend.
  • avatar Posted Apr 30, 2008 by  LewWaters
    #23
    @ skeptikool
    What war do you think Reverend Wright was referring to when he equated U.S. military action with terrorism? Not the "good" war, surely?

    Obama claims the terrorism remark was offensive to Americans, but if he was referring to the war against Iraq, many would not argue against the Reverend.


    skeptikool, there really is no such thing as "a good war," just necessary ones.

    While many will agree with Wright about Iraq, many others won't.
  • skeptikool Posted Apr 30, 2008 by  skeptikool
    #24
    @ LewWaters
    skeptikool, there really is no such thing as "a good war," just necessary ones.

    While many will agree with Wright about Iraq, many others won't.


    Agreed. That's why the quotation marks.

    On the necessity of war, most have been contrived to serve political purposes, the arms industry and the military.
  • skeptikool Posted Apr 30, 2008 by  skeptikool
    #25
    Obama outraged at pastor's latest speech

    http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=8b2e0d84-2328-418e-9e1f-ef22ec75789c

    Couldn't help noticing the spin here. Though the Reverend is quoted, I noticed no reference to terrorism and war. Surely, not because too many might have been receptive to the remarks.
  • avatar Posted Apr 30, 2008 by  Helena Handbasket
    #26
    @ skeptikool
    Obama outraged at pastor's latest speech

    http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=8b2e0d84-2328-418e-9e1f-ef22ec75789c

    Couldn't help noticing the spin here. Though the Reverend is quoted, I noticed no reference to terrorism and war. Surely, not because too many might have been receptive to the remarks.


    Oh I think the good Rev is creating his own spin ....
  • avatar Posted Apr 30, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #27
    @ Helena Handbasket
    Oh I think the good Rev is creating his own spin ....


    Exactly Helena, this post is about a topic, which is whether Obama did enough or quick enough, as titled, no matter how people would rather distract from that topic...that IS the stated headline..
  • avatar Posted Apr 30, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #28
    @ Susan Duclos
    Exactly Helena, this post is about a topic, which is whether Obama did enough or quick enough, as titled, no matter how people would rather distract from that topic...that IS the stated headline..


    This always reminds me of when I used to teach ladies Bible classes.

    I would pick my topic and use Bible verses. Someone once said to me why didn't I say such and such about a certain passage. To which I replied this is the topic that I chose to teach on not what you are saying
  • avatar Posted Apr 30, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #29
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    This always reminds me of when I used to teach ladies Bible classes.

    I would pick my topic and use Bible verses. Someone once said to me why didn't I say such and such about a certain passage. To which I replied this is the topic that I chose to teach on not what you are saying


    It always amuses me when people do that instead of writing a piece themselves on the topic THEY choose, they try to change other people's topics to what THEY want it to be. I laugh, then I get back on the topic of the actual article.
  • skeptikool Posted Apr 30, 2008 by  skeptikool
    #30
    Barack Obama Denounces Jeremiah Wright, But Is It Too Little Too Late?

    The title also states: Barack Obama Denounces Jeremiah Wright.

    Surely, that's open to discussion. If one desires to be that much "in control", perhaps a simple vote on the question would suffice.
  • avatar Posted Apr 30, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #31
    What the hell are you talking about? You brought up terrorism and war, when the post is about Obama denouncing Wright.

    Not a matter of control, it is a matter of trying to stay on topic, which is Obama's speech due to Wright's rhetoric.

    The reason terrorism, war or any of that is not involved in this article is because it is about Wright, his videos, actions and comments to which it took Obama months after everyone else understood that Wright was an anti-American racists, to finally "see the light".
  • skeptikool Posted Apr 30, 2008 by  skeptikool
    #32
    This is what the hell I was talking about, as I responded to your opening post, where the matter of terrorism and war were broached - quoted here:

    ...But when he states and then amplifies such ridiculous propositions as the U.S. government somehow being involved in AIDS; when he suggests that Minister Farrakhan somehow represents one of the greatest voices of the 20th and 21st century; when he equates the U.S. wartime efforts with terrorism – then there are no excuses. They offend me. They rightly offend all Americans. And they should be denounced, and that’s what I’m doing very clearly and unequivocally here today."
    (my bold)

    You threw it into the ring, S. D.. Sorry if I appeared combative.
  • avatar Posted Apr 30, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #33
    @ skeptikool
    This is what the hell I was talking about, as I responded to your opening post, where the matter of terrorism and war were broached - quoted here:

    (my bold)

    You threw it into the ring, S. D.. Sorry if I appeared combative.


    No biggie, my bad. Obama was using that and you are right, he mentioned it, he made it a legitimate issue, although he was talking about Wright's comments, it still is a valid point you made. Sorry I didn't catch it.... have a good evening :o)

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