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Three teens killed in accident, was drinking involved?

Posted Apr 9, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso] in Crime | 15 comments | 585 views
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What was the cause of a deadly accident that has left three teens dead, a fourth in critical condition and two in stable condition?
It was a warm, sunny spring day in Michigan yesterday and the friends were out for a ride apparently. They were driving on Gratiot Avenue in Chesterfield Township.

There was a pickup truck, a school bus and several other vehicles that were involved in the accident yesterday afternoon.

As reported in freep.com, Detective Sgt. Brad Kersten of the Chesterfield Police Department reported that the pickup truck that had four teens in it crossed into the northbound lane and hit head on into a New Haven Community Schools bus. According to police the truck was going at least 60 mph.

The bus did not have any passengers in it and the bus driver was not injured.

According to the police there were as many as six vehicles involved and that some of the occupants knew each other.

The pickup truck hit the bus so hard that the truck was almost in a V shape as if it was folding inward. The crash was so loud according to some residents that it shook their homes.
There was broken glass and twisted metal across the highway which was closed for about five hours.

The boys could only be removed by emergency equipment that was used to cut the roof of the truck back. It took about an hour and a half to get the two injured boys out. The bodies of the other two boys were removed about an hour and a half later. A tarp was used to block the view of the onlookers as the bodies were put into bags.

The two who died instantly were 17 year old Robert McGuire, and 18 year old Jordan Vandeputte. Nicholas Noble, 17, died about five hours after the crash in a hospital.

The driver of the truck, 17 year old James Lacoursiere is listed in serious condition.

Scott Richards a 21 year old is in a local hospital and listed in stable condition. He was a passenger in another car.

Bill Winifield who lives a few houses away from the crash said that he heard the crash and then saw smoke from his window.

Winifield said that he rushed to the school bus to see if there were children in it. He then looked at the truck and saw the victims in it.

He said,
"I couldn't look; it was too bad"



In a report this morning on WWJ.950 newsradio WWJ's Pat Sweeting was told by students and witnesses at the scene that the victims may have been playing a game of chicken or been involved in some type of road rage. It has also been reported that the occupants of two of the vehicles were throwing beer cans at each other while driving. Witnesses said that they could see beer cans inside the truck.
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  • Sue D. Posted Apr 9, 2008 by  Sue D.
    #1
    If there were beer cans there, sadly, they will probably find alcohol in their systems.
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #2
    When will these kids ever learn? It always takes an accident like this for some to wake up.
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2008 by  Chris V. (cgull)
    #3
    This keeps occurring again and again, too many kids die senselessly. The Beer ads and MTV flaunt about beer all the time, so they are into it very early on.
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2008 by  Nikki W (karateblossom)
    #4
    Cyn, very sad story! :( Teenagers are just missing some vital link in their brains that cause them to believe they are impervious to injury, death and harm (an actual psychological term for it, just cannot remember it).

    These kids, so sad, as it frightens me that my oldest will one day make a silly choice to be with someone who makes a momentary decision likes this.

    I know situs of this nature are in GODs hands but wow, how humbling.
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #5
    @ Sue D.
    If there were beer cans there, sadly, they will probably find alcohol in their systems.


    @ Debra Myers (skyangel)
    When will these kids ever learn? It always takes an accident like this for some to wake up.


    These were boys in their teens. It is against the law to drink or to buy beer at their age.

    Who ever supplied them with the beer should have a lot of guilt to bear for the rest of their life. If the police find out who supplied it they will be facing some serious charges also. Hopefully some will learn from this accident.

    The 17 year old driver that was speeding how is he going to live with himself, the only survivor in the truck, if he had been drinking?
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #6
    @ Chris V. (cgull)
    This keeps occurring again and again, too many kids die senselessly. The Beer ads and MTV flaunt about beer all the time, so they are into it very early on.


    Yes cgull drinking is glamorized. This is the result of drinking that is repeated over and over again. Sad.
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #7
    @ Nikki W (karateblossom)
    Cyn, very sad story! :( Teenagers are just missing some vital link in their brains that cause them to believe they are impervious to injury, death and harm (an actual psychological term for it, just cannot remember it).

    These kids, so sad, as it frightens me that my oldest will one day make a silly choice to be with someone who makes a momentary decision likes this.

    I know situs of this nature are in GODs hands but wow, how humbling.


    Because of underage drinking family and friends have lost loved ones.

    They go out for what they see as a good time never thinking of what the consequences can be.

    If those who are of age wouldn't buy for them or stores wouldn't sell to them it would cut way down on the underage drinking.

    I hope that it is found out where they got the beer from and let them be prosecuted.
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2008 by  Nikki W (karateblossom)
    #8
    Cyn, my husband and I attended a community forum last week about teen and alcohol.

    quite informative. when then chamber of commerce got up and talked about how 9 of the 20 alcohol licensed businesses had already been cited in 2008 for selling to minors (thats convenience stores, liquor stores, and anyone who sells alcohol/beer/wine in our town)!
    I'm like-shouldn't they lose their license? Unless someone lookes 100, they should be carded!
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #9
    @ Nikki W (karateblossom)
    Cyn, my husband and I attended a community forum last week about teen and alcohol.

    quite informative. when then chamber of commerce got up and talked about how 9 of the 20 alcohol licensed businesses had already been cited in 2008 for selling to minors (thats convenience stores, liquor stores, and anyone who sells alcohol/beer/wine in our town)!
    I'm like-shouldn't they lose their license? Unless someone lookes 100, they should be carded!


    Every once in awhile in the city where I live they do stings on the convenience stores and liquor stores. There are always at least one or two that will sell to underage people.

    They should lose their license when they sell to those who are underage. If it is an employee who has sold they should be fired and prosecuted. The laws need to be enforced and not let anyone get away with breaking them.

    If a person isn't old and gray and using a walker then card them!!
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2008 by  Nikki W (karateblossom)
    #10
    Lol! A gray old person with a walker buying beer....that's an image.

    I just don't see, nor condone, alcohol and teens. It is such a dangerous combo and anyone who contributes should be found negligently contributory in accidents, deaths, etc.

    Even the 21 yo friend who gave them the beer!
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #11
    @ Nikki W (karateblossom)
    Lol! A gray old person with a walker buying beer....that's an image.

    I just don't see, nor condone, alcohol and teens. It is such a dangerous combo and anyone who contributes should be found negligently contributory in accidents, deaths, etc.

    Even the 21 yo friend who gave them the beer!


    I certainly agree KB that teens should not be drinking.
    They can use enough bad judgement without having their brains affected by alcohol.

    Anyone who supplies them with alcohol should be charged with a crime.
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2008 by  Navin Vaswani
    #12
    terrible...too young
  • avatar Posted Apr 10, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #13
    @ Navin Vaswani
    terrible...too young


    It is Sports, such a tragady with the young lives lost.
    Their family and also their friends have to be going through a terrible time.
  • avatar Posted Apr 10, 2008 by  666divine
    #14
    Parents our often the unwitting suppliers of alcohol. How many teens sneak into their folks' alcohol cabinet and help themselves. One of their favourite tricks is to pour the drinks for themselves and then refill the bottles with water.
  • avatar Posted Apr 10, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #15
    @ 666divine
    Parents our often the unwitting suppliers of alcohol. How many teens sneak into their folks' alcohol cabinet and help themselves. One of their favourite tricks is to pour the drinks for themselves and then refill the bottles with water.


    True 66.
    That is why I said
    If those who are of age wouldn't buy for them or stores wouldn't sell to them it would cut way down on the underage drinking.


    Underage drinkers can get it from their parents or from friends houses. Would anyone notice that always has beer in their house if a bottle or can was gone?

    Guns as well as alcohol needs to be locked up away from children and young people. Both are dangerous in the wrong hands.

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