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 Michigan's presidential primary law unconstitutional
A federal judge has ruled that Michigan's presidential primary law is unconstitutional. She has blocked the state from giving voter lists to the state's major political parties from the Jan. 15 election.
U.S. District Judge Nancy Edmunds said the part of the law that would only have given the lists to the state Republican and Democratic parties is unconstitutional. She agreed with the American Civil Liberties Union, that giving the list only to the two major parties violated the rights of all the other political parties.
According to freep.com Edmunds' decision which was issued after a court hearing in Detroit, said that the statute
"benefits the major political parties to the detriment of others." She ruled that the state does not have to give the voter's party preference to anyone, but if they do then the list should be available to everyone.
The suit had been filed against Michigan Secretary of State Terri Lynn Land by the ACLU. They were representing the Green, Libertarian and Reform parties of Michigan, the Metro Times and Winning Strategies, a political consulting firm. A law passed in 2007 made it a misdemeanor for anyone other than the major parties to use the lists.
State Elections Director Chris Thomas said they do not plan to appeal the decision and will not give the lists to anyone.
The decision has been watched closely by political observers, especially Clinton's Democratic supporters. Clinton has been pushing for a do-over primary in Michigan.
According to Michigan Democratic Party Chairman Mark Brewer the ruling has probably ended the chances for a new Democratic election which many feel is needed to to try and resolve the ongoing dispute about what to do about Michigan's delegation to the Democratic National Convention. Without the list there would be no way to check if someone had voted in the Republican primary in January.
Brewer said, "If the Michigan Democratic Party cannot get the lists, then our friends at the ACLU may have driven the final nail in the coffin of any re-vote in Michigan,"
Even though Clinton won the Democratic primary, Michigan's Democrats were stripped of all their delegates to this summer's nominating convention for scheduling an early primary in violation of party rules.
Obama had taken his name off of the Michigan ballot and will not agree for a do-over vote.
Clinton trails Obama nationally.
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My thanks to Susan Duclos for alerting me to this report.
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@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
My thanks to Susan Duclos for alerting me to this report.
No thanks needed. Excellently written as usual Picasso. It is almost like any roadblock that can be thrown up to make Michigan's voices heard, is being thrown up.
How is public opinion there about all of this? -
@ Sue D.
No thanks needed. Excellently written as usual Picasso. It is almost like any roadblock that can be thrown up to make Michigan's voices heard, is being thrown up.
How is public opinion there about all of this?
Actually I haven't heard anything at all.
Almost all of the news is taken up with Detroit's mayor, Kilpatrick, and his arrogance. -
Ok-so I'm politically inept in some areas. Get me up to snuff, pls!
IT is now unlawful to give out 'voter lists' in michigan? but they could b4 but only to major 2 parties?
So bcuz hill n bam a tempermental lying babies and can't stop fighting, they wanted a do over? but now cannot?
Hill is offic win in michigan?
Ahhh-politics!
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@ Nikki W (karateblossom)
Ok-so I'm politically inept in some areas. Get me up to snuff, pls!
IT is now unlawful to give out 'voter lists' in michigan? but they could b4 but only to major 2 parties?
It looks to me like State Elections Director Chris Thomas made the decision to not give the list to anyone after it was ruled that the list could not be restricted to just the two major parties. That law restricting the lists was passed last year.
@ Nikki W (karateblossom)
Ok-so I'm politically inept in some areas. Get me up to snuff, pls!
So bcuz hill n bam a tempermental lying babies and can't stop fighting, they wanted a do over? but now cannot?
Hill is offic win in michigan?
Ahhh-politics!
Clinton is the one who is pushing for the do-over because she needs the delagates votes as Obama is leading her now.
Hillary won because Obama was abiding by the party rules and took his name off the ballot. Hers remained on the ballot.
So you either voted for her, uncommitted or for a Republican.
Some of the churches were telling their congregations if they would have voted for Obama to vote uncommitted.
I see it as Obama did the right thing and should not OK a re-do vote.
Hillary is whining and wants the re-do because she needs the delegates now even though at one point she said " that states like Michigan and Florida "don’t count for anything." -
@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
Clinton is the one who is pushing for the do-over because she needs the delagates votes as Obama is leading her now.
Hillary won because Obama was abiding by the party rules and took his name off the ballot. Hers remained on the ballot.
So you either voted for her, uncommitted or for a Republican.
Some of the churches were telling their congregations if they would have voted for Obama to vote uncommitted.
I see it as Obama did the right thing and should not OK a re-do vote.
Hillary is whining and wants the re-do because she needs the delegates now even though at one point she said " that states like Michigan and Florida "don’t count for anything."
I agree totally. Obama should not be penalized for following the rules. Had all names been on the ballot, and not removed themselves because of the DNC's threatened punishment, then the data would be able to be considered correct. As it stands now, I hear many didn't bother to vote at all and those that did, 44% actually voted uncommitted instead of voting for Hillary... is that right? -
Typical Clinton move, make it up as you go along.
"We had to dodge sniper fire after we got of the plane, it was very frightening..."
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@ Sue D.
I agree totally. Obama should not be penalized for following the rules. Had all names been on the ballot, and not removed themselves because of the DNC's threatened punishment, then the data would be able to be considered correct. As it stands now, I hear many didn't bother to vote at all and those that did, 44% actually voted uncommitted instead of voting for Hillary... is that right?
The turn out was low as many felt why vote especially if you were a Democrat.
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@ Mr Garibaldi
Typical Clinton move, make it up as you go along.
"We had to dodge sniper fire after we got of the plane, it was very frightening..."
Yes she sure changed her tune about "don't count for nothing" Michigan when all of a sudden she sees that Michigan could count for a heck of a lot.
A little personal note Mike, "Thanks" ;-) -
She should have listened to the Democratic Party at that time, so it is too late to change. Maybe now she will shut up.
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@ Chris V. (cgull)
She should have listened to the Democratic Party at that time, so it is too late to change. Maybe now she will shut up.
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@ Mr Garibaldi
Typical Clinton move, make it up as you go along.
"We had to dodge sniper fire after we got of the plane, it was very frightening..."
Show a little respect please, Mike. After all she did help raise the flag at Iwa Jima, led the raid on Entebbe, and welcomed Neil Armstrong when he stepped out onto the Sea of Tranquility. -
@ PTBartman
Show a little respect please, Mike. After all she did help raise the flag at Iwa Jima, led the raid on Entebbe, and welcomed Neil Armstrong when he stepped out onto the Sea of Tranquility.
She sure has been around and accomplished a lot in her lifetime. LOL -
Hillary is whining
There's the root cause! Good report, Cynthia! -
@ Debra Myers (skyangel)
There's the root cause! Good report, Cynthia!
Thanks Deb.
It has always "irritated" me that she said " Michigan don't matter" then all of a sudden Michigan matters tremendously when she needs their votes.
Suck it up Hillary and accept the fact that you did not think that Michigan was important and now so be it. -
@ PTBartman
Show a little respect please, Mike. After all she did help raise the flag at Iwa Jima, led the raid on Entebbe, and welcomed Neil Armstrong when he stepped out onto the Sea of Tranquility.
ROFL!!! Jeeez, I cannot drink and read anyones remarks anymore, never know who is going to make me spew it all over the place. -
@ Sue D.
ROFL!!! Jeeez, I cannot drink and read anyones remarks anymore, never know who is going to make me spew it all over the place.
Make it a rule Susan to never take a drink just before you read a comment.
If you don't spew it all over you could choke on it. :-) -
@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
Make it a rule Susan to never take a drink just before you read a comment.
If you don't spew it all over you could choke on it. :-)
I know! It is a good thing to laugh though, just not while swallowing. -
@ Sue D.
I know! It is a good thing to laugh though, just not while swallowing.
Laughing good.
Choking not good.
Drink spewed all over you computer definitely NOT good. -
@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
Laughing good.
Choking not good.
Drink spewed all over you computer definitely NOT good.
Getting electrocuted really, really not good!
Night all! -
@ Debra Myers (skyangel)
Getting electrocuted really, really not good!
Night all!
Good night Deb. Stay warm!!
If we are lucky one of these days the snow will be gone and it will be warm. -
@ Debra Myers (skyangel)
Getting electrocuted really, really not good!
Night all!
Sleep well sweetie. -
@ Sue D.
Sleep well sweetie.
Poor Deb and poor me.
She got about 4 or 5 inches of snow last night and we got about three.
I am so sick of snow and cold.
We have set a record for the snowiest March on record, a record I would have been glad to do without. -
@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
Poor Deb and poor me.
She got about 4 or 5 inches of snow last night and we got about three.
I am so sick of snow and cold.
We have set a record for the snowiest March on record, a record I would have been glad to do without.
ICK. I never want to see snow again, hence my moving to AZ..lol
Night and again, good piece!! -
@ PTBartman
Show a little respect please, Mike. After all she did help raise the flag at Iwa Jima, led the raid on Entebbe, and welcomed Neil Armstrong when he stepped out onto the Sea of Tranquility.
ROFLMAO - Yea Mike, show some respect for Eve..... -
@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
Good night Deb. Stay warm!!
If we are lucky one of these days the snow will be gone and it will be warm.
Y'all still have snow? HA! -
@ Nikki W (karateblossom)
Y'all still have snow? HA!
I certainly hope that you aren't laughing at us KB.
Every time I hear the weather forecast say "SNOW" I go into a deep depression.
This last time I heard the forecast I kicked my husband. He looked shocked and said "What was THAT for? -
@ Sue D.
ICK. I never want to see snow again, hence my moving to AZ..lol
Night and again, good piece!!
Good night Susan. Are you going to resist not "looking" in just one more time? LOL -
@ Sue D.
ROFL!!! Jeeez, I cannot drink and read anyones remarks anymore, never know who is going to make me spew it all over the place.
I live to make you spew (wait, that doesn't sound quite right) -
@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
Good night Susan. Are you going to resist not "looking" in just one more time? LOL
I resisted and put my coffee down BEFORE reading the next remark.
@ PTBartman
I live to make you spew (wait, that doesn't sound quite right)
Might not have sounded right but sure gave me a hearty laugh first thing in the morning...LOLOLOL -
Hey Susan I am so proud of you!!! :-)
I even shut down my computer last night and just before going to bed I HAD to turn it back on for just one more check on DJ.
I just sent you a user contact asking you to take a look at something.
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@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
Hey Susan I am so proud of you!!! :-)
I even shut down my computer last night and just before going to bed I HAD to turn it back on for just one more check on DJ.
I just sent you a user contact asking you to take a look at something.
DJ is no match for my cramps Picasso, so once I was laying down with my heating pad... would have taken an earthquake to even make me think about moving.
Got your email and thanks, that was a GREAT piece. -
@ Sue D.
DJ is no match for my cramps Picasso, so once I was laying down with my heating pad... would have taken an earthquake to even make me think about moving.
Got your email and thanks, that was a GREAT piece.
You should go back to it and see what your new found friend said about it.
I am sure that you and Mike already realize by now that she is VERY outspoken. All those who have been around for awhile already know that. -
@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
You should go back to it and see what your new found friend said about it.
I am sure that you and Mike already realize by now that she is VERY outspoken. All those who have been around for awhile already know that.
Good for her. Holding ones tongue for fear of offending the delicate sensibilities of others is a stupid, idiotic practice and that type of political correctness is what will kill this country and any country. -
@ Sue D.
Good for her. Holding ones tongue for fear of offending the delicate sensibilities of others is a stupid, idiotic practice and that type of political correctness is what will kill this country and any country.
Well she sure ain't one to hold her tongue ROFL Add a Comment
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