The Power of Citizen Journalism
 
News» Top News» Latest News» Post News ($) Blogs» Top Blogs» Latest Blogs» Post Blog» Images» Top Images» Latest Images» Upload Images» TV» Groups» View Groups» Create a Group» Live Events» Alerts» Create an Alert» Manage Alerts» How do I ...» Get paid to report news» Post blogs» Upload images» Embed video» Join/create groups» Vote on news & images» Comment & debate»
 

article imageOp-Ed: Swing Low, Sweet Chariot, and Help Me Get My Foot Out of my Mouth

Posted Mar 26, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi in Religion | 63 comments | 588 views
Join our team to voice opinions, share images, get paid to report news and more!
Email Print Share
Subscribe to author

Email this article

Recipient email:
Your email:
optional
Message:
optional
If you were a member of a congregation whose pastor was openly racist, politically slanted, and incorrect in his Biblical references, could you continue to go to that church? Given these three bases, how has Jeremiah Wright been a pastor for this long?
The pastor of a church is supposed to be an exemplary figure, someone to be looked up to, admired, respected, and above reproach. His duties are the ministry of the Gospel and the spiritual well being of the congregation. Often this branches out into roles such as marriage counselor, visitor to the sick and injured, and someone you can come to and talk to who will help you through times of trouble.

First and foremost, the pastor of a Christian church is supposed to be exemplary of the love of Christ for all of mankind.

I tend to stay away from religious commentary due to my own "wandering" in recent years outside the bounds of the organized church. For reasons of my own, I walked away from organized religion some years back and have continued my own explorations of spirituality in my own time and my own manner. That does not mean, however, that, having grown up IN the church, having studied the Bible and other theological doctrines and writings through the years, that I don't have a working knowledge of how things are supposed to be IN an organized congregation of a denominational body.

It can truthfully be said that I have forgotten more religious studies than many pastors standing before their congregations on any given Sunday morning.

Given all of this personal background that I don't generally go into, I have to say this; it sickens my soul every time I hear some people referred to as "Reverend," "Minister," or "Pastor," after hearing the hatred and clearly non-Biblical teachings that they spew forth when they open their mouths.

Jeremiah Wright is the latest "preacher" to absolutely turn my stomach. We have all seen, at this point, portions of his "sermons" in which he goes off on a tangent about the Clinton's, 9/11, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and whites in general. In my mind, these are not issues for the pulpit. These are issues for a political rally. The very images of his descriptions of Bill Clinton "riding dirty," with graphic motions to emphasize his point are not something that I, personally, would want my 8 year old daughter to be sitting in the pew seeing on Sunday morning. I can assure you, that preacher and I would be having some rather hot words rather than a chorus of "Amen's," quite possibly at that point rather than after the so-called sermon.

The argument that this is because it's a black preacher addressing a black congregation doesn't wash with me, either. I've attended black churches in my time; they are some of the most spiritual, most reverent, most Bible-based sermons I've ever heard in my life. I have a very, very good friend that I think the world of. He's a black pastor. We haven't discussed Jeremiah Wright yet because it's been a while since we've talked (Lewis, if you're reading this, by the way, I'll be hollering at you soon...lol). Distance and busy schedules are the factors in play there more than anything else.

Now Jeremiah Wright has decided that it's not enough that he's targeted the whites of America, he's decided to take on the Italians as well. In a blast of statements that are both Biblically and historically inaccurate, he has managed to insult the Italian people over the Crucifixion.

"(Jesus') enemies had their opinion about Him," Wright wrote in a eulogy of the late scholar Asa Hilliard in the November/December 2007 issue. "The Italians for the most part looked down their garlic noses at the Galileans."

Wright continued, "From the circumstances surrounding Jesus' birth (in a barn in a township that was under the Apartheid Roman government that said his daddy had to be in), up to and including the circumstances surrounding Jesus' death on a cross, a Roman cross, public lynching Italian style. ..."


I suppose Wright ignores the Old Testament and it's prophecies which foretell of the circumstances surrounding the birth of Christ, and as well ignores that Ceasar didn't force Joseph and Mary to sleep in a stable that night (which was likely a cave in the hillside, which would have been a much warmer and more private place for the birth of Jesus than in an inn overcrowded with travellers). Wright also fails to mention that Pilate had turned Christ over to the Jews to determine his fate, and they cried out for him to be crucified.

To coin a phrase I tend to save for Al Gore, how inconvenient.

I grew up listening to the same pastor for nearly a decade myself. I can tell you today, twenty years later, what the man believed, what he taught, and where he stood on things. He WAS and IS a man above reproach. His successor has some very large (figuratively speaking) shoes to fill in having taken over the congregation where I went to church in my youth, but having known the current pastor almost all of my life, having camped with him and fished with him, attended ball games, and sitting side by side with him in classrooms all through high school, I can say with great confidence that he, too, is a man above reproach and an example for others to follow.

You can not attend a church for that long and not know what your pastor is about. And as far away as I've wandered from those very simple little lessons about life from my youth, the core of them is still there. Several years of preaching does influence a person.

For good, or for bad.

There is an old saying that I've heard surrounding churches, "As a pastor goeth, so follows his flock." From my experience, I've seen this to be true time and time again

For good.

Or for bad.
article:252220:10::0
6 subscribers
Subscribe to this thread
  • avatar Posted Mar 26, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #1
    OMG, does this man not know when to shut up? LOLOL
  • avatar Posted Mar 26, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #2
    Obviously not.
  • avatar Posted Mar 26, 2008 by  Gar Swaffar
    #3
    good job
  • avatar Posted Mar 26, 2008 by  Nikki W (karateblossom)
    #4
    Very well written, Mr. Mike! :)

    Hill n Bam are about to CX themselves out with their OWN stupidity.

    A pastor of choice for that long is definately one that you believe in. Otherwise, there is NO WAY one would sit in the pews for 20 years and listen to a ranting lunatic preach anti-white, anti-america crap repeatedly and not bolt like a spooked horse.

    He raised his children in that crap.This is what he is about.

    ANTI-WHITE/ANTI-AMERICA

    Not balance. Not equality. Not safety or working together. Not diversity.

    Mmmmmmmm - wouldn't that look good in oval office?
  • avatar Posted Mar 26, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #5
    Good report Mike.
    I received an email this morning telling about him writing this in a magazine.

    I have been a member of the same church for over twenty years. If a pastor's messages does not affect your thinking then you are one of those who sleep through the sermons and have no personal contact with the pastor.

    There have been four pastors since I have been in my church. The first and the one there the longest died of cancer. The second one should have never been there and was there for less then a year.
    The third was asked to resign or the congregation would get letters telling why he should be voted out.

    The fourth one has been there for almost two years. The congregation has almost doubled since he has been there and he is above reproach as a pastor should be.

    The leadership of a church has a responsibility to be sure that the pastor is conducting himself in a Christian manner and that his life and sermons reflect that.

    How important is that church to Obama well he gave, according to his federal income tax return for 2006, gave the Trinity United church that year $22,500 in contributions.
  • avatar Posted Mar 26, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #6
    How important is that church to Obama well he gave, according to his federal income tax return for 2006, gave the Trinity United church that year $22,500 in contributions.


    Money talks, and in this case, speaks volumes, don't you think?
  • avatar Posted Mar 26, 2008 by  Nikki W (karateblossom)
    #7
    @ Mr Garibaldi
    Money talks, and in this case, speaks volumes, don't you think?


    Didn't this church give man of the year awards or something like that and one of those to a guy who spent years in prison for a BOMBING?
  • avatar Posted Mar 26, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #8
    @ Mr Garibaldi
    Money talks, and in this case, speaks volumes, don't you think?


    It sure does.

    I would think that when you help to support a church with substantial amounts of money it shows how much you think of that church and what they teach.
  • avatar Posted Mar 26, 2008 by  Nikki W (karateblossom)
    #9
    I guess one could do their own search on the connection between Obama and the Pentagon Bomber Bill Ayers because I'm sleepy and wanna go to bed now but guess it wasn't an award from the church - that was Farrakahn being the man of the year - you know, the guy who hates the whites, and the jews, and america.....yea, well.

    The bomber association was with the pentagon bomber from the 60's i guess.

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63

    http://marathonpundit.blogspot.com/2008/03/obamas-other-radical-friends-bill-ayers.html
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #10
    @ Nikki W (karateblossom)
    I guess one could do their own search on the connection between Obama and the Pentagon Bomber Bill Ayers because I'm sleepy and wanna go to bed now but guess it wasn't an award from the church - that was Farrakahn being the man of the year - you know, the guy who hates the whites, and the jews, and america.....yea, well.

    The bomber association was with the pentagon bomber from the 60's i guess.

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63

    http://marathonpundit.blogspot.com/2008/03/obamas-other-radical-friends-bill-ayers.html


    Yes, Obama claims to be great friends with this man. I wonder what would be said if McCain was good friends with Unibomber Ted Kazinski?
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #11
    It really gets to you suthreners when a black man gets uppity, eh, mikey..?
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #12
    I'm part Cherokee, bunny foo foo, get over yourself and don't make baseless accusations.
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #13
    Someone is eventually going to stop the mouth that spills the crap that Wright keeps coming out with. Unbelievable.
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #14
    @ Jedediah Redman
    It really gets to you suthreners when a black man gets uppity, eh, mikey..?


    It gets to us suthreners and nuthreners when someone who is ignorant gets uppity, eh, bunny foo foo
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #15
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    It gets to us suthreners and nuthreners when someone who is ignorant gets uppity, eh, bunny foo foo


    LMAO!
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Nikki W (karateblossom)
    #16
    @ Mr Garibaldi
    I'm part Cherokee, bunny foo foo, get over yourself and don't make baseless accusations.


    By the way, Mike - My 14 year old and I owe you and all the native americans an apology.

    :-)

    I know we don't but you know, one of those "things" that just stays in your heart for life? Well, when AMERICA was "discovered" and the native americans were raped and killed and herded like cows from their own homes......

    Yea, well, my 14 yo autie feels a certain passion about this issue and well, so do I. so just know. Your heritage and the true suffering of your people means FAR MORE to me.

    Bloodshed is bloodshed but you do have an understanding and a heart and soul. You know of what you speak.

    Everytime I look at a Native American, I think of the horrible things that were done. They are a humble people, unlike the Farrakahns and Wrights, who are an evil people.
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Helena Handbasket
    #17
    An excellent op-ed Mr. Tippitt. Anyone that attends this church as followers of Wright's words and drops money in the plate -- are invested and believers in the messages of hate.
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #18
    @ Mr Garibaldi
    I'm part Cherokee, bunny foo foo, get over yourself and don't make baseless accusations.


    Hey Mike, I'm also part Cherokee and also part Osage.
    My mother was from West Virgina.
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #19
    @ Helena Handbasket
    An excellent op-ed Mr. Tippitt. Anyone that attends this church as followers of Wright's words and drops money in the plate -- are invested and believers in the messages of hate.

    \
    Obama's tax returns that were just release shows he dropped more than just a few bucks into that church.

    One has to wonder if he didn't agree with Wright's rhetoric as he now says he didn't, why he would donate tens of thousands of dollars to the church.
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #20
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    It gets to us suthreners and nuthreners when someone who is ignorant gets uppity, eh, bunny foo foo



    LMAOLMAO. omg Picasso, you made me spew my coffee.
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #21
    @ Susan Duclos
    \
    Obama's tax returns that were just release shows he dropped more than just a few bucks into that church.

    One has to wonder if he didn't agree with Wright's rhetoric as he now says he didn't, why he would donate tens of thousands of dollars to the church.


    There's a secret there that's not so secret anymore...so what's he going to do...scrub his tax returns clean? I agree with what Mike said...after 20 years of knowing this man...you can't tell any of us that he did NOT know about Wright's speeches! Or true beliefs.
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #22
    @ Debra Myers (skyangel)
    There's a secret there that's not so secret anymore...so what's he going to do...scrub his tax returns clean? I agree with what Mike said...after 20 years of knowing this man...you can't tell any of us that he did NOT know about Wright's speeches! Or true beliefs.


    Agreed.
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #23
    There are more people with Cherokee heritage than there were Cherokee princesses. That means, folks that some of your ancesters must have had sexual congress with Cherokee men..!
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Helena Handbasket
    #24
    @ Susan Duclos
    \
    Obama's tax returns that were just release shows he dropped more than just a few bucks into that church.

    One has to wonder if he didn't agree with Wright's rhetoric as he now says he didn't, why he would donate tens of thousands of dollars to the church.


    Yes ma'am. Serious coin -- because BHObama is the vehicle for the message and agenda right into the White House. He calls it "moving the agenda forward" in his appearances. Ever checked out his body language -- notably from the neck up -- in one on one interviews? Not public forays or satellite interviews -- eyeball to eyeball so to speak ............
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #25
    @ Jedediah Redman
    There are more people with Cherokee heritage than there were Cherokee princesses. That means, folks that some of your ancesters must have had sexual congress with Cherokee men..!


    Hmmm...does that mean that your ancestors were the ones firing bullets at us Indians?
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #26
    @ Jedediah Redman
    There are more people with Cherokee heritage than there were Cherokee princesses. That means, folks that some of your ancesters must have had sexual congress with Cherokee men..!


    I'm sure you think you have a point in that, somewhere...
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #27
    @ Mr Garibaldi
    I'm sure you think you have a point in that, somewhere...


    ROFL my thoughts also Mike.

    I will say though I think I was a descendant from one of the Cherokee princesses.

    My in-laws use to call me "The Princess"

    I took it as a compliment even though I don't think they meant it that way. I was younger than all of them so I believe that was their problem. LOL
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #28
    @ Nikki W (karateblossom)
    By the way, Mike - My 14 year old and I owe you and all the native americans an apology.

    :-)

    I know we don't but you know, one of those "things" that just stays in your heart for life? Well, when AMERICA was "discovered" and the native americans were raped and killed and herded like cows from their own homes......

    Yea, well, my 14 yo autie feels a certain passion about this issue and well, so do I. so just know. Your heritage and the true suffering of your people means FAR MORE to me.

    Bloodshed is bloodshed but you do have an understanding and a heart and soul. You know of what you speak.

    Everytime I look at a Native American, I think of the horrible things that were done. They are a humble people, unlike the Farrakahns and Wrights, who are an evil people.


    While I can understand and appreciate the sentiment and the thought process behind feeling that way, KB, it isn't necessary. None of my ancestors are alive today who undertook the Trail of Tears, none of the people who were involved in the relocation of the Nations are alive today.

    That is our history, that is our past, it is a shared experience, and one we can look to, and learn from, in learning how to interact with one another today.

    This is part of the problem I see with Jeremiah Wright. He offers no solutions, only a propagation of the hatred and mistrust of the past, giving no positive message for relations in the 21st century. People like Wright are quick to point out that whites owned slaves in America up until the 1800's, but at the time, that was the law of the land. They fail to point out that it was a practice that had been around for thousands of years prior to the 1800's, world-wide, and that black African's were the ones supplying white slave ships with slaves from rival tribes on the African continent during the slave trade days of the 1700's and earlier.

    One can not point to one time frame without looking over the big picture. Slavery has been around since the dawn of mankind, it was not unique to the pre-war South of the 1800's.
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  lensman67
    #29
    @ Mr Garibaldi
    While I can understand and appreciate the sentiment and the thought process behind feeling that way, KB, it isn't necessary. None of my ancestors are alive today who undertook the Trail of Tears, none of the people who were involved in the relocation of the Nations are alive today.

    That is our history, that is our past, it is a shared experience, and one we can look to, and learn from, in learning how to interact with one another today.

    This is part of the problem I see with Jeremiah Wright. He offers no solutions, only a propagation of the hatred and mistrust of the past, giving no positive message for relations in the 21st century. People like Wright are quick to point out that whites owned slaves in America up until the 1800's, but at the time, that was the law of the land. They fail to point out that it was a practice that had been around for thousands of years prior to the 1800's, world-wide, and that black African's were the ones supplying white slave ships with slaves from rival tribes on the African continent during the slave trade days of the 1700's and earlier.

    One can not point to one time frame without looking over the big picture. Slavery has been around since the dawn of mankind, it was not unique to the pre-war South of the 1800's.

    No, slavery was not unique to the antebellum South, however historical studies of the types of slavery that most societies have practiced have found that that sort found in the South, and even more so in the Caribbean, was among the worst in the entire history of humanity.

    Most cultures that practiced slavery were not racists. A slave was just someone who was in bondage due to bad luck or whatever but he or she was not thought of as "deserving" slavery due to their race or of being less than human. Indeed in some societies the slaves could, and often were, highly respected professionals, doctors, lawyers generals and even rulers of the entire country.

    In other societies they were simply a sort of owned labor force that was well treated in order to produce a higher quality product. Roman shop keepers, craftsmen etc were often slaves but they were still respected as humans.

    Very rarely in history have slaves been as badly treated as in the US, indeed that treatment stands as almost unique in history and almost never had racism been a part of the mix. That is why racist behavior continued long after the slavery that had brought it about had died and why, within my lifetime, there were whites only drinking fountains, blacks in the back of the bus and all the hundreds of other humiliations and cruelties that have characterized American treatment of ALL other races, but none quite so bad as the treatment of Blacks.

    For a man, such as the Reverend Wright, who grew up in such a world resentment burns deep and rightly so. So long as sanctimonious white people tell others who have suffered at their hands, or the hands of their ancestors to "get over it" we will continue to have racial tensions.

    I have yet to see anything that the Reverend Wright has said that was any way as bad as the garbage spewing from the ministers that McCain has been courting. A person may be forgiven for making allowances for the speech of the pastor on one's church but there is no excuses for McCanin to actively seek the approval of these monsters.

    When I hear Right Wingers going after these nut jobs, and some of the other wing nuts like Pat Robinson, Dobson, the late and unlamented Jerry Falwell etc. then I will have some respect for their criticisms of Wright. Until then I will continue to believe that this just more of the same campaign of personal destruction that Carl Rove (aka Turdblossom) has made the Republican party famous for.
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #30
    That's your opinion and you're welcome to it, lens. It's filled, as usual, with historical inaccuracies placed in the form of anti-US sentiments, but you are welcome to them.
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #31
    Oh, and I do want to point out, just to show a difference in approach, at no timed did I call Jeremiah Wright anything other than his name. I did not refer to him as "nut," "late and unlamented," nor that pillar of complimentary descriptives, "turdblossom."

    I'll let our readers decide which is a more respectful approach to conducting oneself and which is more childish...
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #32
    @ Mr Garibaldi
    Oh, and I do want to point out, just to show a difference in approach, at no timed did I call Jeremiah Wright anything other than his name. I did not refer to him as "nut," "late and unlamented," nor that pillar of complimentary descriptives, "turdblossom."

    I'll let our readers decide which is a more respectful approach to conducting oneself and which is more childish...



    LOL! Good point there, some must refer to name calling and rewriting of history to serve their own purposes instead of facts.
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #33
    Weren't Negro slaves originally chosen because of the biblical notion that they were a lesser species--one marked by the hand of God?

    A similar attitude toward the new world aborigines is clearly evident in the writings of Europeans who enslaved a lot of them early in the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries.

    Of course the statements made by Lloyd George concerning the darker races of the middle east--and Winston Churchill's attitudes toward Indians and Africans remind us of why racism has seemed to hang on so stubbornly.

    But slavery in the U. S. seems to have been different--generally more severe--even than slavery in other parts of the New World.

    Perhaps it is just my imagination; but I detect a distinctly suthren brand of racism at work here in this peculiar forum...
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #34
    @ Mr Garibaldi
    That's your opinion and you're welcome to it, lens. It's filled, as usual, with historical inaccuracies placed in the form of anti-US sentiments, but you are welcome to them.


    Why don't you point out those historical inaccuracies, mikey. Maybe we who are less learned than yourself can learn something..?
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #35
    @ Jedediah Redman
    Why don't you point out those historical inaccuracies, mikey. Maybe we who are less learned than yourself can learn something..?


    I've done so, time and time again, bunny foo foo. Perhaps if you paid attention instead of spewing off all the time with rhetoric, you'd notice that.

    I've proven myself sufficiently in my time here, backed up my statements with facts, to what end? Only to have you and lens ignore the facts and rant and rave and try to distract?

    I no longer play your games by your rules and on your terms.

    You come to play at recess, I'm here for things more of a higher academic value than elementary school.

    I have no time for either of you, nor will I stoop to your trappings any more.
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #36
    @ Mr Garibaldi
    I've done so, time and time again, bunny foo foo. Perhaps if you paid attention instead of spewing off all the time with rhetoric, you'd notice that.

    I've proven myself sufficiently in my time here, backed up my statements with facts, to what end? Only to have you and lens ignore the facts and rant and rave and try to distract?

    I no longer play your games by your rules and on your terms.

    You come to play at recess, I'm here for things more of a higher academic value than elementary school.

    I have no time for either of you, nor will I stoop to your trappings any more.


    If you can't back your claims up, mikey, you can't.
    I doubt anybody is going to ask that you be censored just for admitting you are a fraud and a poseur...
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #37
    @ Mr Garibaldi


    I have no time for either of you, nor will I stoop to your trappings any more.

    I suppose all of your little friends realize how busy you are, mikey...
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #38
    @ Jedediah Redman
    I suppose all of your little friends realize how busy you are, mikey...


    You know Jed you really are a JERK!!
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  jaguar
    #39
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    You know Jed you really are a JERK!!

    LOL
    you go, mom!
    LOL
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #40
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    You know Jed you really are a JERK!!


    I do not think I have ever seen you mad Picasso... don't let him get to you.



    @ jaguar
    LOL
    you go, mom!
    LOL


    You, I like...LOLOL
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  jaguar
    #41
    *winking at Susan*
    ;-)

    *spitting on Jed*
    :-+
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #42
    Susan
    I do not think I have ever seen you mad Picasso... don't let him get to you.


    He has really been a jerk today and on Deb's post that was just too much.

    I don't normally call anyone names but he deserved that and more.

    Jag just called him a butt wipe to me on the phone but I can't say that as it could get me suspended.
    But I can tell you about my phone conversation with my own daughter. :-)
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #43
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    Susan
    He has really been a jerk today and on Deb's post that was just too much.

    I don't normally call anyone names but he deserved that and more.

    Jag just called him a butt wipe to me on the phone but I can't say that as it could get me suspended.
    But I can tell you about my phone conversation with my own daughter. :-)


    ROFL. I like her more and more the more I see her here and hear your comments about her!
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  jaguar
    #44
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]

    Jag just called him a butt wipe to me on the phone but I can't say that as it could get me suspended.
    But I can tell you about my phone conversation with my own daughter. :-)

    LOL, mom!
    Ok, ok, I like using "butt-wipe" against idiots I dislike. It's a step below the "butt-hole" because buttholes actually serve some kind of purpose, but a butt-wipe is good for nothing but cleaning crap off & being flushed down the toilet!
    LOL
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  jaguar
    #45
    @ Susan Duclos
    ROFL. I like her more and more the more I see her here and hear your comments about her!

    :-)
    I like you too, Susan!
    :-)
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #46
    @ jaguar
    :-)
    I like you too, Susan!
    :-)


    You really need to visit more often. I came after you left :o(
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #47
    @ Jedediah Redman
    If you can't back your claims up, mikey, you can't.
    I doubt anybody is going to ask that you be censored just for admitting you are a fraud and a poseur...


    I can back up anything I say, bunny foo foo, but as I said, it goes over your head and I wind up speaking to the choir, for lack of a better analogy, while you and your ilk ignore the facts that are presented and stoop to name calling, hooting and hollering, and attempts to brand people of mixed heritage as being racists.

    Play your games, if you wish; I will have no further part in them. Make your attempts to slander, to slur, be my guest. I wish you well in your attempts at futility.
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #48
    @ jaguar
    LOL, mom!
    Ok, ok, I like using "butt-wipe" against idiots I dislike. It's a step below the "butt-hole" because buttholes actually serve some kind of purpose, but a butt-wipe is good for nothing but cleaning crap off & being flushed down the toilet!
    LOL


    LMAO, jag! I'm ignoring him and maybe that's what we all can do. Once he figures out he's only talking to himself...he'll go away! LOL!
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  jaguar
    #49
    okay, it's been fun, kids, but I'm slinking back into the forest. Time to get some stuff done around here...make some dinner.
    Maybe I'll come back in another day....

    *waving bye*
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #50
    Hey Jag I am friends with Lensman and he and Jed should never be put in the same category.

    Lensman and I certainly do not agree on a lot of things but we are OK with each other.
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #51
    Hurry back, jag, I have to say, your commentary has been MOST entertaining...lol
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #52
    @ Mr Garibaldi
    Hurry back, jag, I have to say, your commentary has been MOST entertaining...lol


    I just got off the phone with Jag and she said "I think I would fit right in with Mike, Susan and their group"

    She at one time was very active and back at the start when she and I first registered no one knew that we were mother and daughter.

    She had wanted to reveal it several times and I wouldn't let her. Her and my style, to see the least, are a "little" different. LOL
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #53
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    I just got off the phone with Jag and she said "I think I would fit right in with Mike, Susan and their group"

    She at one time was very active and back at the start when she and I first registered no one knew that we were mother and daughter.

    She had wanted to reveal it several times and I wouldn't let her. Her and my style, to see the least, are a "little" different. LOL


    Yep...and jag had a way of finding those "oddball" stories that could be funny or worth a hundred comments!
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #54
    @ Debra Myers (skyangel)
    Yep...and jag had a way of finding those "oddball" stories that could be funny or worth a hundred comments!


    It wasn't dull when she got going.

    Gee I wonder where I went wrong as a mother? LOL
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #55
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    Susan
    He has really been a jerk today and on Deb's post that was just too much.

    I don't normally call anyone names but he deserved that and more.

    Jag just called him a butt wipe to me on the phone but I can't say that as it could get me suspended.
    But I can tell you about my phone conversation with my own daughter. :-)


    You'd get suspended for calling somebody a buttwipe, Cyn? This is a very unforgivingforum. It doesn't bother me at all. Tell your daughter she is a real class act....
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #56
    @ Mr Garibaldi
    I can back up anything I say, bunny foo foo, but as I said, it goes over your head and I wind up speaking to the choir, for lack of a better analogy, while you and your ilk ignore the facts that are presented and stoop to name calling, hooting and hollering, and attempts to brand people of mixed heritage as being racists.

    Play your games, if you wish; I will have no further part in them. Make your attempts to slander, to slur, be my guest. I wish you well in your attempts at futility.


    You talk like a tough guy, mikey; but I'm of the opinion that you and snoop and lew are just trying to look butch...
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #57
    @ Susan Duclos
    You really need to visit more often. I came after you left :o(


    @ Mr Garibaldi
    Hurry back, jag, I have to say, your commentary has been MOST entertaining...lol


    You are quite easily amused, mikey...
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #58
    @ Jedediah Redman
    You'd get suspended for calling somebody a buttwipe, Cyn? This is a very unforgivingforum. It doesn't bother me at all. Tell your daughter she is a real class act....


    It could happen.
    You could even report me for calling you a jerk though I don't think I would get suspended for it.
  • avatar Posted Mar 27, 2008 by  Pamela Jean (GotTheScoop)
    #59
    @ jaguar
    Yeah, that's what I said about lensman a long time ago. Unfortunately he never "went away"!
    LOL

    Bobbleheads one and all..........I think you need to look a little deeper into the lens and you might realize that you are seeing double, triple - hell, I think we are at quintuplets at last count! HAHAHAHA!
  • avatar Posted Mar 28, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #60
    @ Jedediah Redman
    You talk like a tough guy, mikey; but I'm of the opinion that you and snoop and lew are just trying to look butch...


    You don't want to come put that to the test, do you? Let me know if you do...
  • avatar Posted Mar 28, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #61
    @ Mr Garibaldi
    You don't want to come put that to the test, do you? Let me know if you do...


    Shhh....I haven't seen Jed on here today! LOL!
  • avatar Posted Mar 28, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #62
    Just don't be surprised if he doesn't answer that offer. I'll send him a map/bus fare, if he needs it...
  • avatar Posted Mar 28, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #63
    @ Mr Garibaldi
    Just don't be surprised if he doesn't answer that offer. I'll send him a map/bus fare, if he needs it...


    Me surprised? Noooooooooope!

Add a Comment

You have to Login or Register to comment


Email:
Password:
Remember meForgot password?