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The New York Times has just released a story suggesting a romantic link between Republican Presidential hopeful John McCain and lobbyist Vicki Iseman back during the Senator's first run for the White House in 2000.
Interest in the story was rekindled by the recent release of a story by the New York Times reopening the case.
An attractive middle aged lobbyist was seen frequently in the company of John McCain at fund-raisers, in his offices and aboard the corporate jet of one of her clients, raising speculation that a romantic relationship existed at the time between the Republican candidate and the lobbyist.
According to the New York Times, McCain's campaign staffers, speaking on the condition of anonymity, began worrying that a romantic relationship was developing between their boss and the attractive lobbyist. The Times reports that top advisers to McCain then intervened to "protect the candidate from himself," by giving orders to block Iseman's access and warning her to stay away from the Senator.
When the media reported that the Senator had written letters to government regulatory agencies on behalf of some of Ms Iseman's clients some aids were afraid that news of the affair would leak out.
Both Senator McCain, 71, and Vicki Iseman, 40, deny that they ever had a romantic relationship.
More information as the story develops
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McCain can still get little McCain up? Whoa. You go John.
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oh my god mccain was a bad boy
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Good find Lensman.
It's a wonder that these politicians do not think before they act. When they get in the public eye someone is always going to look for their "sins" of the past or even present if that is true.
Kinda reminds me of the preachers who think when they carry on affairs which they are preaching against someone is going to find them out.
Good report Lensman.
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HELEN-I know, right? Cannot imagine that interaction.....like mini me and uma thurman! ack!
RANDY-they are ALL bad boys! which one can find the g spot is the true question! ;)
Great report lens!
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@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
Good find Lensman.
It's a wonder that these politicians do not think before they act. When they get in the public eye someone is always going to look for their "sins" of the past or even present if that is true.
Kinda reminds me of the preachers who think when they carry on affairs which they are preaching against someone is going to find them out.
Good report Lensman.
Thank you. I do know how much credence to give the story but I heard it on the MSMBC and went looking for it on line. When I first linked to the story it had only been on that site for three minutes!
Frankly I don't care about the guy's personal life but considering all the slime attacks against Obama this, some of them so off the wall that no respectable news source would run with them, I thought the story deserved to be heard.
Like they say "what goes around comes around." ;o) -
@ lensman67
Thank you. I do know how much credence to give the story but I heard it on the MSMBC and went looking for it on line. When I first linked to the story it had only been on that site for three minutes!
Frankly I don't care about the guy's personal life but considering all the slime attacks against Obama this, some of them so off the wall that no respectable news source would run with them, I thought the story deserved to be heard.
Like they say "what goes around comes around." ;o)
You are right Lensman.
But it does seem like everything that the politicians do that they want kept a secret is found out and brought out into the open. -
@ Nikki W (karateblossom)
HELEN-I know, right? Cannot imagine that interaction.....like mini me and uma thurman! ack!
RANDY-they are ALL bad boys! which one can find the g spot is the true question! ;)
Great report lens!
Thank you. I believe that the real story is not whether he did it or not but the fact that a big paper like the Times would run with an eight year old story at a time when he has all but sewn up the nomination.
It will be interesting to see who benefits form this the most. Recently both McCain and Clinton have been attacking Obama, proving that he is the front runner.
The person I see benefiting from it the most is Huckabee, who has been waiting for a "miracle." If the story has "legs" and I am not saying that it does, Huckabee might be back in the race after all. -
@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
You are right Lensman.
But it does seem like everything that the politicians do that they want kept a secret is found out and brought out into the open.
It is interesting the way the French handle this sort of thing. At the funeral of a recent Prime Minister his wife and mistress shared an umbrella. Bill Maher said that not having a mistress in France just meant that you were not good at multitasking. ;o) -
@ lensman67
Thank you. I believe that the real story is not whether he did it or not but the fact that a big paper like the Times would run with an eight year old story at a time when he has all but sewn up the nomination.
It will be interesting to see who benefits form this the most. Recently both McCain and Clinton have been attacking Obama, proving that he is the front runner.
The person I see benefiting from it the most is Huckabee, who has been waiting for a "miracle." If the story has "legs" and I am not saying that it does, Huckabee might be back in the race after all.
That is what I have been wondering lately Lensman.
With all the mud slinging between Clinton and Obama and if the conservatives decide that McCain is too liberal the swing just could go to Huckabee.
Especially more so now if what you have reported becomes well known. The evangelicals will have even more against McCain then what they already do. -
All the recent stories about sex scandals and drug use and so forth reminds me of when some "conserned citizens" went to Abraham Lincoln and told them that General Grant was a drunk.
The general had been winning battle after battle so Lincoln could care less what he did in his spare time so he told them "Find out what brand whiskey he brinks and I will send a case to each of my generals."
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@ lensman67
It is interesting the way the French handle this sort of thing. At the funeral of a recent Prime Minister his wife and mistress shared an umbrella. Bill Maher said that not having a mistress in France just meant that you were not good at multitasking. ;o)
Well they would have to be good at multitasking to keep two women happy. ;-) -
@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
That is what I have been wondering lately Lensman.
With all the mud slinging between Clinton and Obama and if the conservatives decide that McCain is too liberal the swing just could go to Huckabee.
Especially more so now if what you have reported becomes well known. The evangelicals will have even more against McCain then what they already do.
Didn't someone on DJ recent write an OP Ed assuring us that it was all over but the formality of voting--McCain had the White House in the bag? Perhaps it would be well not to count any chickens until they hatch. ;o) -
Never a good idea to count your chickens before they hatch.
It is still up in the air as to who will actually be the next president or even who will be the Democrat and Republican candidates.
If there are many voters like I am right now I don't trust or care for any of them. Who I would vote for right now I don't know at all.
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@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
Never a good idea to count your chickens before they hatch.
It is still up in the air as to who will actually be the next president or even who will be the Democrat and Republican candidates.
If there are many voters like I am right now I don't trust or care for any of them. Who I would vote for right now I don't know at all.
Well, considering the fact that since 1981 this country has had Republican presidents for all but eight years, and the country has been going to the dogs the whole time, I think that it should be obvious that we need someone other than a Republican in the White House. -
@ lensman67
Well, considering the fact that since 1981 this country has had Republican presidents for all but eight years, and the country has been going to the dogs the whole time, I think that it should be obvious that we need someone other than a Republican in the White House.
Seems like the country has already gone to the dogs and I don't see them as very good dogs.
I just can't see that anyone of the candidates are more concerned with the U.S. citizens then with themselves. -
@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
Seems like the country has already gone to the dogs and I don't see them as very good dogs.
I just can't see that anyone of the candidates are more concerned with the U.S. citizens then with themselves.
I have never been a big fan of the theory of the "hero in history." That is what is so sad about the Ron Paul fans and all the other followers who live for the day that some "daddy," or perhaps "mommy" figure is going to "fix" everything for us.
If we want our politicians to do the job we send them to Washington we need to do our job as citizens and keep them in line by our own supervision.
We can't do that if we squander all our time and moral outrage over trivial things like sex. Those poor twisted conservatives who are still obsessed with Clinton's sex life are well served if their own "hero" gets tarred with the same brush.
Or we could act like grown ups, keep our noses out of other people's private business and save our attention and moral outrage for those things that really matter--like the economy, foreign policy, wars and rebuilding the nation's infrastructure--to name only a few -
There will never be anyone that can fix everything and make this country into Utopia.
Besides that what you would see as Utopia and what I would see as Utopia would probably be two different things. So we would have to fight about that and that would be the end of any hope of Utopia.
There are so many things that are seriously wrong and needs to have work started on the problems as soon as possible.
I believe that this country is too obsessed with sex, sports and the so called celebrities to pay a whole lot of attention to what is going on in the world.
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What is this sick fascination that Right Wingers have with other people's sex lives?
Really Lens, I thought you were above using the right wing tactics you disdain. -
"The New York Times has just released a story suggesting a romantic link
Pardon me but where is the sex scandal? The NYT story is quite strong on innuendo and very short on evidence.
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@ sumdume
"Pardon me but where is the sex scandal? The NYT story is quite strong on innuendo and very short on evidence.
You are right which is why I said:
I believe that the real story is not whether he did it or not but the fact that a big paper like the Times would run with an eight year old story at a time when he has all but sewn up the nomination.
Frankly I don't give a fig for whether he did it or not. It is the whole "culture of personal destruction" that is the real story. Not only the low and unfounded attacks on Obama but the Conservative attack on McCain's war record and Swift boating and the hysteria over Clinton's sex life.
Rather than deal with issues many prefer to attack and tear down the candidate personally. Recently McCain himself had begun attacking Obama so I guess what goes around comes around. -
I believe that the real story is not whether he did it or not but the fact that a big paper like the Times would run with an eight year old story at a time when he has all but sewn up the nomination.
What? The story is that the democratic machine has begun it's campaign against McCain without diverting Senators Obama or Clinton from their primary campaigns. The NYT ran the story because they could put a scandal on the front page that did not hurt their favorite politicians.
Really, step back and take an objective look at this story and compare it to other similar stories regarding politicians on both sides of the aisle. At this point in time, this story is a lot weaker on facts than were similar articles that were no covered as closely.
Please don't misunderstand me. I do believe that skunks smell and when you smell a skunk you can bet he has been there. -
@ sumdume
Really Lens, I thought you were above using the right wing tactics you disdain.
Apparently you did not bother to read the comments.
I am opposed to this sort of thing and said so. The story is not the sex, the story is why an eight year old scandal would resurface now. Huckabee stands to gain a whole lot if McCain is forced out. Could he be behind it? Sheer speculation but just the sort of thing I have already heard pundits talking about.
I say it is time that everyone get their noses out of other people's sex lives and grow up. -
@ sumdume
What? The story is that the democratic machine has begun it's campaign against McCain without diverting Senators Obama or Clinton from their primary campaigns. The NYT ran the story because they could put a scandal on the front page that did not hurt their favorite politicians.
Really, step back and take an objective look at this story and compare it to other similar stories regarding politicians on both sides of the aisle. At this point in time, this story is a lot weaker on facts than were similar articles that were no covered as closely.
Please don't misunderstand me. I do believe that skunks smell and when you smell a skunk you can bet he has been there.
So why do you assume that it HAS to be democrats? Huckabee stands to gain the most if McCain drops out.
With the Right running stories about Obama being a "Muslim," having gay sex and drugs with an ugly red neck, being a Communist because he may have known one and all the rest of the garbage it is time for both sides to knock off the happy horse feathers and debate the issues. -
It will be interesting to see who benefits form this the most.
Senator Obama will benefit the most. He and his wife have not shown evidence of this type of problem. He will probably take the high road and avoid talking about it directly. Much like he did when the Edwards and Clinton campaigns threw dirt at him.
Senator Clinton will not benefit from this, because it will draw comparisons to to the escapades of he husband. Consequently, she will be attacked for enabling President Clinton to have his affairs.
Governor Huckabee is out of the race unless McCain drops outs. If McCain drops out I believe Rudy or Mitt will get back in or be drafted at the convention. -
Apparently you did not bother to read the comments.
I am opposed to this sort of thing and said so. The story is not the sex, the story is why an eight year old scandal would resurface now. Huckabee stands to gain a whole lot if McCain is forced out. Could he be behind it? Sheer speculation but just the sort of thing I have already heard pundits talking about.
I say it is time that everyone get their noses out of other people's sex lives and grow up.
Yes, I did read the comments, and I understood them. The facts are that you slung the mud and then said gee I am above all of that.
Would you have penned this op-ed if had been about Senator Obama or Senator Clinton? I you can't say that then where does that leave you?
You say you want everyone to keep their noses out of other peoples sex lives and yet you authored this op-ed. Why didn't you set the example and keep your nose out of some one's sex life? -
@ sumdume
Yes, I did read the comments, and I understood them. The facts are that you slung the mud and then said gee I am above all of that.
Would you have penned this op-ed if had been about Senator Obama or Senator Clinton? I you can't say that then where does that leave you?
You say you want everyone to keep their noses out of other peoples sex lives and yet you authored this op-ed. Why didn't you set the example and keep your nose out of some one's sex life?
Apparently you did not understand as much as you think. The whole point of the story is that the story is the story. It is an example of sort of Republican attacks we have been seeing all week only turned around and aimed in the other direction.
You are right. I would not have bothered to have reported such a story about Obamo or Clinton. I would not have needed to. There would have been plenty of people to do that already.
The story, in case I failed to make it clear, is that the same sorts of attacks are now going in the other direction.
Dog bites man--no story.
Man bites dog--story. -
Those poor twisted conservatives who are still obsessed with Clinton's sex life are well served if their own "hero" gets tarred with the same brush.
For many of of us poor, twisted conservatives it was not about President Clinton's sex life. It was about 3 things.
First, he lied under oath. As the President of the U.S. you are not supposed to do that.
Second, he sexually harassed women while in office. This is evidenced by his dilly-dallying with Ms. Lewinsky. Their may be merit to the allegations made by other women that are at least as strong as the evidence against Senator McCain. The rules and regulations regarding sexual harassment of women apply to the Executive Branch of the Government.
Third, it appears that he betrayed the trust of his wife. In the absence of any statements indicating an open relationship I assume she believe that he should have been faithful.
The first two reasons are violations of either Federal law or rules and regulations developed by the Federal government. All three show a serious lack of judgement and support opinions that President Clinton was not the right person for the job. -
Apparently you did not understand as much as you think. The whole point of the story is that the story is the story. It is an example of sort of Republican attacks we have been seeing all week only turned around and aimed in the other direction.
Are you sure you weren't taking your shot at the leading conservative (sort of) candidate?
I would have accepted your explanation more readily if you had chosen a different title. The one you chose was flamboyant and could be easily mistaken for a mudslinging attack.
I have read the op-ed several times. I seem to keep missing the part where you point out the fact that it is an example of a political smear attack Can you tell me which paragraph of the op-ed I should be looking at. -
Lens,
What would your reaction have been if I had written an op-ed that was exactly like yours except the main character was a democrat?
Pleas just limit your response to the op-ed not the comments that followed.
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This is the part of the election process that I sooo hate: the darned mud-slinging! Everyone has a ghost or two to hide!
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yea, I agree deb. but with mcain, he has ran how many times? we pretty much know all there is to know about pappa bear by now. its all they have and its old news re released. A rerun of old stuff that doesn't carry much weight or merit for this amazing man.
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No offense, but the responses seem to be a little bit more accurate. I don't think you understood the article. The article was not so much to publicize McCain and a sex scandal with a lobbyist, but more to publicize McCain and his decision making abilities. He was involved in a major scandal early in his career, and, unfortunately, he also has made his fair share of political mistakes since then. That is what the article talks about. His sex scandal is merely eluded to and is not the focus of the article.
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