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Naked or nude it's still too sexy for the tube

Posted Feb 16, 2008 by  lensman67 in Arts | 108 comments | 2175 views
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Officials at the London Transport Authority, which runs the subway system, have refused to display a poster depicting a 16th century nude painting intended to advertise an art show at the Royal Academy because they said it was too overtly sexual.
The painting in question entitled "Venus" by the German artist Lucas Cranach the Elder is a full length picture of a pale skinned nude woman, holding a transparent veil and is part of a 70 work showing which is due to go on display at the Royal Academy of Arts in London on March 8.

According to academy spokeswoman Jennifer Francis the transit authorities have refused to display the poster on the trains unless the bottom half is cropped off. Francis said:
"I think it is because she’s totally nude as opposed to say she’s topless. We’re shocked. We wouldn’t have put a poster design forward if we thought it was offensive."

Francis said that the painting, which was completed by Cranch in 1532, was chosen because it best represents the artist's work and that the academy would be uncomfortable altering it.

Lucas Cranch the Elder was a friend of Protestant reformer Martin Luther and was well known by his friend and by the general public for his paintings of nudes.

Venus and Amor

Venus and Cupid.

A statement released by the Transport Authority said:
"We have to take account of the full range of travelers and endeavor not to cause offense in the advertising we display."

Subway rules forbid any advertisements that show people "in a sexual manner" or "in an overtly sexual context."

The British Royal Academy, which was founded in 1768. Sir Joshua Reynolds, the first President of the Academy, was a strong advocate what has come to be called the ""Grand Style" in painting which idealized the imperfect and sought to raise public morals by means of art. Upon his death in 1792 American artist Benjamin West took over as president and sought to carry on the ideals of his predecessor.

A key component of the education that the Academy offered aspiring artists was extensive training in drawing and painting the nude, which was considered the cornerstone of all art. Indeed is was because of this strong emphasis on the nude, and working from live models, that women were bared from membership until 1936 when Laura Knight was the first to gain admittance.

Throughout the normally stuffy Victorian period the nude retained its central place in the cannon of high art which is perhaps why the Academy was so surprised at the actions of transit officials.

Spokeswoman Jennifer Francis said:
"We actually thought it was quite an innocent painting."


Cupid Complaining to Venus.
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  • avatar Posted Feb 19, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #101
    What the heck might just as well do the 101 and start a new page. LOL :-)
  • Maple Posted Feb 20, 2008 by  Maple
    #102
    Bravo London Transport Authority! I applaud them for using common sense and recognizing that the 16th century nude is too overtly sexual to be displayed on the subway system. I agree.

    First of all, why would anyone want it there in the first place. Let's face it. It is art and needs to be put in a place of honor for those who truly appreciate it. It doesn't matter if it's in an art gallery, museum, park, in front of a palace, etc. etc. You get my drift. It belongs in and amongst these kinds of places, not on the subway lines.

    Imagine the young ones giggling at the nudes, the teenagers googling at the boobs, the older gents and ladies getting their thrills and the seniors taking anxiety pills....

    All joking aside, I appreciate the fact that there are people in the London Transport Authority who can still blush with embarassment and recognize the offense that some would take from this nude exposure.
  • avatar Posted Feb 23, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #103
    @ lensman67
    We both started with a bowl of menudo (tripe soup) and then I had the chicken mole and my father had carnitas.

    The whole was washed down with good Mexican beer and dark coffee.

    Tomorrow I am fixing salt cod but I haven't picked a recipe yet. I can't decide if I should do a modern Spanish style dish or a Medieval French one. I bough a pound of the stuff when I was writing this month's article on salt (have you had a chance to read it yet?) so I am leaning towards Medieval. ;o)


    I finally got to Borders today and bought the magazine with your article in it. It is very interesting.

    The amount of salt these people consumed was astounding. Its a wonder they didn't all die from strokes.

    My goodness one pound of salt to every ten pounds of butter!! That is some mighty salty butter.

    Another thing that I found interesting was the farmers plowing salt into their fields to reduce weeds and kill insects. I wonder how well that worked.

    Another thing that was interesting was the reason why red meat was forbidden on religious days. I never knew that before.

    It was a very interesting article Lensman. Very well written.
  • avatar Posted Feb 26, 2008 by  lensman67
    #104
    @ Maple
    Bravo London Transport Authority! I applaud them for using common sense and recognizing that the 16th century nude is too overtly sexual to be displayed on the subway system. I agree.

    First of all, why would anyone want it there in the first place. Let's face it. It is art and needs to be put in a place of honor for those who truly appreciate it. It doesn't matter if it's in an art gallery, museum, park, in front of a palace, etc. etc. You get my drift. It belongs in and amongst these kinds of places, not on the subway lines.

    Imagine the young ones giggling at the nudes, the teenagers googling at the boobs, the older gents and ladies getting their thrills and the seniors taking anxiety pills....

    All joking aside, I appreciate the fact that there are people in the London Transport Authority who can still blush with embarassment and recognize the offense that some would take from this nude exposure.

    Sorry to disappoint but the forces of sanity have routed the Philistines and the poster is back up. The poster has been back since the 22 and thus far there have been no reported cases of mass hysteria or wild orgies.

    Now the Transit authorities are trying to ban a poster for a play called "Fat Jesus." I am betting they lose this one too.
  • Maple Posted Feb 27, 2008 by  Maple
    #105
    @ lensman67
    Sorry to disappoint but the forces of sanity have routed the Philistines and the poster is back up. The poster has been back since the 22 and thus far there have been no reported cases of mass hysteria or wild orgies.

    Now the Transit authorities are trying to ban a poster for a play called "Fat Jesus." I am betting they lose this one too.


    Some people succumb to pressure...others don't ;)

    I'm not disappointed, it just shows the signs of the times (no pun intended) !!

    "but I bet some little kid will have a moustache coloured on the poster's face, not to mention colouring over the "privates"
    aah. there is justice afterall :) :)
  • avatar Posted Feb 27, 2008 by  lensman67
    #106
    @ Maple
    Some people succumb to pressure...others don't ;)

    I'm not disappointed, it just shows the signs of the times (no pun intended) !!

    "but I bet some little kid will have a moustache coloured on the poster's face, not to mention colouring over the "privates"
    aah. there is justice afterall :) :)

    The fact that you would think that defacing art is "justice" is a tragic comment on your values.
  • Maple Posted Feb 27, 2008 by  Maple
    #107
    @ lensman67
    The fact that you would think that defacing art is "justice" is a tragic comment on your values.


    Oh, oh I'm in trouble now..
    Please accept my humblest apologies if my comment offended you in any way...it was meant purely as an inside joke. The fact is that kids love to colour on posters and add moustache's to faces etc. etc. and I suspect someone may do it if they are opposed to it.
  • avatar Posted Feb 27, 2008 by  lensman67
    #108
    @ Maple
    Oh, oh I'm in trouble now..
    Please accept my humblest apologies if my comment offended you in any way...it was meant purely as an inside joke. The fact is that kids love to colour on posters and add moustache's to faces etc. etc. and I suspect someone may do it if they are opposed to it.

    Someone may deface a piece of Christian art as well, in fact European churches are being stripped bare by thieves and vandals. Is that also "justice?"

    I feel sorry for the sort of dirty little mind that would find this picture "offensive."

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