Rape just ain't like it use to be.

Are you kidding me??? This guy needs to sit down in a rape victim therapy session. How can he even have a clue what it is like for these women or children who have been raped. Where are their rights? If a woman becomes pregnant by a rape, it is her choice to have an abortion. Maybe she is only 15 or 16, and not ready for a baby and the responsibilities that come with it. Maybe she had other plans on becoming a successful business woman who never intended on having kids, or a outstanding athlete who is training for the Olympics!

How would he feel if someone just took everything he had wished for away from him? And he has no say in his future.

Why should these women bring a baby into this world, only to put them in an orphanage with the other hundreds already in there???!!!

Now, by all means, I am not saying I think abortion is wonderful, but in these situations, I think a woman should have a right to her own planned out future. Not some life given to her by some rapist!

@ Leah
Are you kidding me??? This guy needs to sit down in a rape victim therapy session. How can he even have a clue what it is like for these women or children who have been raped. Where are their rights? If a woman becomes pregnant by a rape, it is her choice to have an abortion. Maybe she is only 15 or 16, and not ready for a baby and the responsibilities that come with it. Maybe she had other plans on becoming a successful business woman who never intended on having kids, or a outstanding athlete who is training for the Olympics!

How would he feel if someone just took everything he had wished for away from him? And he has no say in his future.

Why should these women bring a baby into this world, only to put them in an orphanage with the other hundreds already in there???!!!

Now, by all means, I am not saying I think abortion is wonderful, but in these situations, I think a woman should have a right to her own planned out future. Not some life given to her by some rapist!

This guy is typical of the sort of thinking that is typical on the Right where they value an unborn fetus over a woman's right to control her own body. They speak of "less government," but only mean in their lives. They are quite happy to use the government to cram their morals down other people's throats.

There is a ugly strain of misogyny in the Republican party that wants desperately to return women to their "proper" roll in the home and gleefully imagines the only sort of rape they consider important enough to worry about.

This guy is in the same sick mind set as South Dakota state senator Bill Napoli, who, when asked under what conditions he would approve of a woman having an abortion said:

A real-life description to me would be a rape victim, brutally raped, savaged. The girl was a virgin. She was religious. She planned on saving her virginity until she was married. She was brutalized and raped, sodomized as bad as you can possibly make it, and is impregnated. I mean, that girl could be so messed up, physically and psychologically, that carrying that child could very well threaten her life

One wonders if he would set the bar so high if he were a woman who had been raped.

As a rape and molestation victim and a registered domestic/dating violence advocate and intructor as well as a probono certified self defense instructor -rape is rape regardless of WHO commits the act.

VERY FEW rapists use a weapon or violence to commit the act of sexual assault-pressure, coercion, threat of violence (most common), etc. are the more common tools a RAPIST uses.

A rapist is anyone-husband, dad, stepdad, boyfriend, bestfriend's dad, 1st time date, stranger, gang, that uses ANY of the above means to penetrate any orafice on the body-knowingly or unknowingly.

I FIRMLY BELIEVE in pro choice abortions. I ABSOLUTELY believe that an abortion should be allowed for any wowan or legal guardian of a child who has become pregnant by the result of rape as defined.

I have never and could never have an abortion-ever. Even after have being raped for 9 years by my step father (i luckily had not hit puberty) and as an adult victim.

Doug Henry must be Clayton Williams brother! This guy is crazy.

FANTASTIC ARTICLE LENS!

@ Nikki W (karateblossom)
As a rape and molestation victim and a registered domestic/dating violence advocate and intructor as well as a probono certified self defense instructor -rape is rape regardless of WHO commits the act.

VERY FEW rapists use a weapon or violence to commit the act of sexual assault-pressure, coercion, threat of violence (most common), etc. are the more common tools a RAPIST uses.

A rapist is anyone-husband, dad, stepdad, boyfriend, bestfriend's dad, 1st time date, stranger, gang, that uses ANY of the above means to penetrate any orafice on the body-knowingly or unknowingly.

I FIRMLY BELIEVE in pro choice abortions. I ABSOLUTELY believe that an abortion should be allowed for any wowan or legal guardian of a child who has become pregnant by the result of rape as defined.

I have never and could never have an abortion-ever. Even after have being raped for 9 years by my step father (i luckily had not hit puberty) and as an adult victim.

Doug Henry must be Clayton Williams brother! This guy is crazy.

FANTASTIC ARTICLE LENS!

Thank you.

It is tragic that there are still dinosaurs like him out there who believe that only virgins can be raped and that all the "fallen women" have no one to blame but themselves. It is also tragic that there are those, like this fellow, who do not believe it is ever rape when a husband does it.

you know, who gets to decide if a woman is 'pure' enough to be raped? No one! Rape is rape-it is never the victims fault and creeps like this guy obviously have little understanding of how much it affects the victim FOREVER! They will never be safe....ever. :( This guys tude, well, just tells men its ok to take and tells victims that you will never ever be physically safe. How horrible for those women and their future children. This guy needs a year or 2 in prison as the cell hottie! ;)

Great article Lensman.

I personally do not believe in abortion. What I would have thought if I had ever been raped I honestly cannot say. Thank God I never was.
Karateblossom everything that you said is so true. Rape is rape no matter who commits the act. I am so sorry that you had to experience rape yourself. It is good though that you are helping others since you can honestly say to them that you know how they feel.

I have experienced physical abuse but I still believe that rape is much worse than that.

This man needs to retire and work in a center so that he can see what a rape victim goes through. He probably still wouldn't see that the victim was wronged though.

@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
Great article Lensman.

I personally do not believe in abortion. What I would have thought if I had ever been raped I honestly cannot say. Thank God I never was.
Karateblossom everything that you said is so true. Rape is rape no matter who commits the act. I am so sorry that you had to experience rape yourself. It is good though that you are helping others since you can honestly say to them that you know how they feel.

I have experienced physical abuse but I still believe that rape is much worse than that.

This man needs to retire and work in a center so that he can see what a rape victim goes through. He probably still wouldn't see that the victim was wronged though.

I use to do escort duty for women at a local clinic and once one has sheltered a woman, especially a teenage rape victim, through a mob of howling, spitting "pro-live" activist waving gruesome pictures in the traumatized young woman's face one has a whole different take on the sorts of people, like this Senator, who think that they can make life changing decisions for other people.

@ lensman67
I use to do escort duty for women at a local clinic and once one has sheltered a woman, especially a teenage rape victim, through a mob of howling, spitting "pro-live" activist waving gruesome pictures in the traumatized young woman's face one has a whole different take on the sorts of people, like this Senator, who think that they can make life changing decisions for other people.

It is experiences in life like what you and Karateblossom and even myself have gone through that make us into what we are today.

Since I do not believe in abortion as I sit here I really cannot say how I would have felt if I would have been raped and found
myself pregnant by some monster that I would have hated.

The senator is wrong with his ideas and apparently does not care about women unless they are in their "proper" place.

@ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
It is experiences in life like what you and Karateblossom and even myself have gone through that make us into what we are today.

Since I do not believe in abortion as I sit here I really cannot say how I would have felt if I would have been raped and found
myself pregnant by some monster that I would have hated.

The senator is wrong with his ideas and apparently does not care about women unless they are in their "proper" place.

I am not wild about abortion myself but I do not believe that I, or anyone else, has the right to tell a woman what she can or cannot do with her own body.

Whatever one believes about the the status of the fetus is immaterial. It is at best our opinion and we do not have the right to substitute our opinion for that of the woman whose body it is.

If we ever decide that we have the right to let "majority rule" be applied to personal decision then where will it stop? Should we allow people who are morally opposed to transfusions deny us the right to have one if we need it because it violates their morals?

How about those who believe that the only proper treatment for illness is prayer and that anything else is an insult to their god? Do they get the right to make that decision for us? If not then how do we justify substituting our opinion for that of someone else, when we are not the ones that suffer the consequences?

@ Nikki W (karateblossom)
As a rape and molestation victim and a registered domestic/dating violence advocate and intructor as well as a probono certified self defense instructor -rape is rape regardless of WHO commits the act.

VERY FEW rapists use a weapon or violence to commit the act of sexual assault-pressure, coercion, threat of violence (most common), etc. are the more common tools a RAPIST uses.

A rapist is anyone-husband, dad, stepdad, boyfriend, bestfriend's dad, 1st time date, stranger, gang, that uses ANY of the above means to penetrate any orafice on the body-knowingly or unknowingly.

I FIRMLY BELIEVE in pro choice abortions. I ABSOLUTELY believe that an abortion should be allowed for any wowan or legal guardian of a child who has become pregnant by the result of rape as defined.

I have never and could never have an abortion-ever. Even after have being raped for 9 years by my step father (i luckily had not hit puberty) and as an adult victim.

Doug Henry must be Clayton Williams brother! This guy is crazy.

FANTASTIC ARTICLE LENS!

I echo her thoughts...as I am also a survivor of molestation and rape. Maybe this man would feel diffferently if it was his daughter or his wife that was raped!

Good article lensman!

Deb-from my experience w/ victims, his wife IS MOST LIKELY a victim.....but is probably bullied into his minset.

I had a lady come up to me at my last seminar as tell me that her EX husband, whose dad was police chief, had been abusing and raping her and her daughter for years. It was horrific to see the desperation in her face as the system had failed her. :( Attorney friends....long time connections.....blah...blah blah.....

Her saving grace was the STEP MOM! It made me want to just grab them both and run (the girl is 15 now).
Victims are scared.

@ Leah
Are you kidding me??? This guy needs to sit down in a rape victim therapy session. How can he even have a clue what it is like for these women or children who have been raped. Where are their rights? If a woman becomes pregnant by a rape, it is her choice to have an abortion. Maybe she is only 15 or 16, and not ready for a baby and the responsibilities that come with it. Maybe she had other plans on becoming a successful business woman who never intended on having kids, or a outstanding athlete who is training for the Olympics!

How would he feel if someone just took everything he had wished for away from him? And he has no say in his future.

Why should these women bring a baby into this world, only to put them in an orphanage with the other hundreds already in there???!!!

Now, by all means, I am not saying I think abortion is wonderful, but in these situations, I think a woman should have a right to her own planned out future. Not some life given to her by some rapist!

Well said. This guy is a sorry excuse. He should tell this to his mother, would have slapped him hard many times.

@ Nikki W (karateblossom)
Deb-from my experience w/ victims, his wife IS MOST LIKELY a victim.....but is probably bullied into his minset.

I had a lady come up to me at my last seminar as tell me that her EX husband, whose dad was police chief, had been abusing and raping her and her daughter for years. It was horrific to see the desperation in her face as the system had failed her. :( Attorney friends....long time connections.....blah...blah blah.....

Her saving grace was the STEP MOM! It made me want to just grab them both and run (the girl is 15 now).
Victims are scared.

Sorry that I didn't get get this until today...very strange! Without a doubt, you are right, the wife was bullied into doing things his way out of fear. Know that scene really well myself.