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Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Susan Duclos in Politics | 43 comments | 1689 views
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In an exclusive interview with this citizen journalist, talk show host Melanie Morgan discusses the situation in Berkeley, CA. where City Council set off a firestorm by passing a resolution calling Marine recruiters "uninvited and unwelcome intruders."
On January 29, Berkeley City Council in California passed a resolution by 6-3 vote calling the Marines at the recruiting center in that town "uninvited and unwelcome intruders."

One point in the resolution (opens in PDF) reads, "...Direct the City Manager to send letters to the Marine Corps Recruiting Station at 64 Shattuck Avenue and to General James T. Conway, Commandant of the United States Marine Corps, advising them that the Marine recruiting office is not welcome in our city, and if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome intruders."

Calling the marines uninvited and unwelcome intruders kicked off a firestorm in the media and in the blogosphere. It also sparked outrage from politicians, businesses as well as town locals who lashed out in anger. Since then, the City Council now claims they didn't read the resolution properly and wish to reword it to quash criticism (full details and background can be found here).

Too little, too late say some. One such critic is popular radio host and political commenter, Melanie Morgan.

In an interview with this DigitalJournal.com citizen journalist, Morgan discusses media, Internet and political reactions to the situation. As chairman of Move America Forward, Morgan also reveals details of a planned event at the next Berkeley City Council meeting on Feb. 12, where she will be attending, participating, broadcasting and reporting for her radio program on KSFO.

Morgan has established herself as a leading conservative voice in the U.S. Every morning, Morgan shows off her intellect and wit as the co-host of one of San Francisco’s top-rated drive-time radio shows, The Lee Rodgers and Melanie Morgan Show.

Morgan has hosted her show for about 12 years now, saying "We are the top-rated morning drive talk show in San Francisco, which is amusing to many people who can't believe that a conservative radio station with an activist co-host like myself can generate a large listening audience."

Morgan admits she is regularly attacked by talk show hosts like Keith Olbermann of MSNBC who called her the "Worst Person in the World." Her reaction? " We have more listeners locked in my closet than watch his pathetically unfunny program," she said. "Gratuitous shot? Yes, I am happy to take it."


Melanie Morgan at a Move America Forward event to thank the troops (more...). - Photo courtesy Move America Forward

Morgan is also the Chairman of Move America Forward, a "non-partisan, not-for-profit charitable organization committed to supporting America’s efforts to defeat terrorism," as their website bio reads. The group says it has more than one million members.

Move America Forward's work has helped to turn negative public opinion on the war in Iraq, as Morgan says polling shows a 20-point jump in approval. "We regard it as a patriotic duty to watch the backs of our troops at home while they fight for us abroad," she said.

In July 2005, Morgan led a delegation of talk radio hosts to Iraq to interview U.S. troops who told stories live to over the radio. These interviews were broadcast live to the nation; they were unedited and unfiltered. Morgan won the Associated Press award for “Best Special Program for "Voices of Soldiers.”

In October 2006, Morgan co-authored the Amazon.com bestselling book, American Mourning. The book tells the story of two American heroes who had paid the ultimate sacrifice in the War on Terror.

Melanie Morgan, talk show host and chairman of MoveAmericaForward.org. - Photo courtesy Melanie Morgan
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Discussing the Issues: Up-close and personal with Melanie Morgan:

Duclos: What was your first reaction to Berkeley City Council passing a resolution calling the marine recruiters in Berkeley, "uninvited and unwelcome intruders"?

Morgan: Shock. Disgust. Antipathy. This story first became public news after CodePink's Medea Benjamin (co-founder of the far left-wing organization funded by George Soros, MoveOn.org and other anti-American organizations) challenged me to debate her in front of the Marine Recruiting Center in Berkeley 10 days ago. I accepted with some important provisos (neutral moderator, acceptable location, Marine participation) which never happened. Of course, CodePink sent out a press release stating I would participate, which was a flat out lie.

Rather than accept the public falsehood, we got busy researching the latest antics of CodePink and stumbled upon the buried story in the Daily Californian about the resolution denouncing our beloved Marines. [We] put out a press release and from there the Blogosphere led by Michelle Malkin, took off with righteous indignation. It was also fueled by the leadership of Republican Senator Jim DeMint's proposed legislation to strip the City of Berkeley of its pork barrel spending.

True to its hateful conduct towards our troops, CodePink blockaded the Marine Recruiting office a few days later, forcing police to cut the chains.

Adding insult to injury, CodePink has now begun using the photo of murdered pregnant Marine Maria Lauterback in an evil effort to politically exploit a victim of a heinous crime.

These people have earned a ticket to hell.

Duclos: Senator Jim DeMint is proposing legislation that would strip more than $2 million of earmarks and federal funding from Berkeley, do you support that legislation?

Morgan: Senator DeMint has shown he is a great national leader who has the right instincts and inspires people.

I applaud the Senator for stepping in immediately with an pro-active response that has appeared to scare the bejeebers out of the Berkeley City Council.

Senator DeMint's office has been working with Move America Forward behind the scenes to coordinate our assault on the treasonous behavior of the City Council.

Duclos: Being a popular conservative radio show host for KSFO, what kind of feedback are you getting from your listeners in San Francisco about the city council of Berkeley? Letters? Callers?

Morgan: We have been receiving a tsunami of support for our troops, and literally thousands of e-mails, phone calls, and :cc's of letters sent to the City Council.

In fact, between my radio show, the blogs, Move America Forward's e-mail list with over a million members, the support of the other pro-troops groups, we were able to crash the server of the Berkeley City Council. We did find some back-door addresses, and thousands more letters denouncing their efforts to strip our Marines of their free speech rights has back-fired. Big time.


An American troop in Iraq. - Photo courtesy Move America Forward

Duclos: What do you think about The American Legion's press release regarding Berkeley where they said "The Marines are not your enemy"?

Morgan: The American Legion is unafraid to take a bold stand, engage the veterans in the issue, and I'm deeply appreciative.

Here's the direct quote:
" Osama bin Laden couldn't have said it better," American Legion National Commander Marty Conatser said of the Berkeley City Council Resolution, which tells the Marines that they are not welcome there. "Disgraceful, disloyal, ungrateful. These words are too kind in describing the actions of the public officials in Berkeley, who voted for this disgrace. Nonetheless, our Marines continue to bravely serve and in so doing, allow Americans to spout such foolishness. The American Legion not only strongly condemns this action by the City Council but also believes that a sincere apology is in order to all Marines, past and present."

I was so impressed with the concise, direct comparison made by Marty Conaster that I am quoting him back with many interviews that I have done involving this issue.

He sums up how American Legion veterans, and all patriotic Americans feel right now.

Duclos: I noticed Move America Forward has also started a petition (linked at the bottom of this interview). What is that for and will it be hand-delivered?

Morgan: There are a number of petitions circulating right now on the blogosphere registering outrage and disgust. I celebrate that so many are taking the steps to get people aware and engaged by our efforts.

But I want to make this distinction: Move America Forward's petition is the ONLY one that is going to be delivered personally to the Berkeley City Council next Tuesday night.

The more folks who sign, the more we shove it back in the face of the Mayor and his minions.


A Move America Forward event at the Texas Panhandle War Memorial (more...). - Photo courtesy Move America Forward

Duclos: Tell us about Move America Forward's protest or rally being organizing for Feb. 12.

Morgan: We are beginning next Tuesday morning at o'dark hundred with staffers from Move America Forward in front of the Berkeley City Council offices.

For those of you who are not in the military, that translates to 5:00 a.m.

One of the things that I have noticed as an activist is that the morning television shows love to show up hours before a scheduled event, turn the cameras around on an empty arena, and say that our side isn't there.

We will be there, for every news cycle until the actual meeting at 7:00 p.m. in order to show our disgust. The meeting time for people with real jobs is 5:00 p.m. two hours before the Council begins it's deliberations.

Instructions on how to get to Berkeley by trains, planes and automobiles are available at our website.

I will be broadcasting from the Council meetings, testifying before the Council, and reporting the Council's actions the next morning on KSFO radio.

We have bloggers who will be posting and who are planning to come.

Most importantly, we have dozens of groups who have committed to bring members, as well as citizens who have friends, relatives, neighbors and acquaintances of people who do the hard work for Freedom.

Duclos: Pete Hegseth, executive Director of Vets For Freedom said "The man or woman who puts on the uniform of a United States Marine, Soldier, Sailor or Airman swears an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. Clearly, the elected officials of Berkeley, California see the Constitution as a mere roadblock in their radical left-wing agenda. What these fanatics fail to realize is that the fantasy world that they live in exists under the very cloak of freedom provided by the sacrifices of the men and women who serve in the Armed Forces."

Do you agree with that?

Melanie Morgan: Pete Hegseth is one of the true shining lights to focus America's attention on the necessity to fight and win in Iraq.

He is a war hero, a veteran with terrific speaking and writing skills, who is dedicating his life now to making sure that his fellow troop members are not forgotten, and this war doesn't fall into the propaganda ash-heap.

His organization is beginning a national tour of Iraq war Heroes that will criss-cross the country, ending in Washington, D.C. where Move America Forward is planning a big parade and celebration of General David Petreaus' successful counter-insurgency efforts (some call it the surge.)

Duclos: On your website, you have listed letters sent to you by companies planning to take their business elsewhere, saying they will not do further business with Berkeley.

Morgan: I am not a huge fan of business boycotts, because it hurts some of the same people who actually support our troops. But this outrage has grown exponentially, and I posted some of the Berkeley boycotters to send a shot across the bow at the crazed leftists who populate the Berkeley City Council.

And it's working. So, for all those who wrote to me, I wanted to report their efforts. People are taking action, as Mayor Tom Bates, to his dismay, has now figured out.


A Move America Forward event to thank the troops (more...). - Photo courtesy Move America Forward

Duclos: Mayor Bates of Berkeley offered to help the Marines leave, which they politely declined and have stated along with other council members that they wish to "reword" that resolution?

Morgan: Where there is heat, there is light. That's an old political axiom, and now the smelly hippy, tree-hugging, environmental nut-jobs who do not support our troops, and hate their mission are seeing a searing truth.

Duclos: Do you think that will make any difference at this point?

Morgan: Oh yes I do. And the fact that Master Bates is 'softening ' his rhetoric proves it. But in the next breath, the Mayor turned around and offered to 'broker a deal' to release the Marines from its lease on Shattuck Avenue. Can you say two-faced liar? It trips right off my tongue.

Duclos: What is your reaction to city council member, Linda Maio, saying: "I don't think any of us paid enough attention to it, and people want to rewrite it to more accurately portray our sentiments. We really do have a great deal of concern for the people in our military, and we don't want to be critical of the sacrifices they are making"?

Morgan: It enrages me all the more. Linda Maio is supposed to read all the damn legislation that comes before the Council. It's her job. But this is just a cheap attempt to escape responsibility for punishing the Marines for daring to intrude into Berkeley's limousine liberal land. Not. Gonna. Work.

Duclos: Do you think there is going to be even more backlash against the City of Berkeley, or will it pass and be forgotten?

Morgan: This is just the beginning.

We know that CodePink, MoveOn.org, and international A.N.S.W.E.R got crushed this summer when they couldn't organize the millions of people they bragged would take to the streets with their white hot hatred of our efforts to bring freedom in Iraq and establish a beach-head to stop Islamic terrorists.

They have also lost every single piece of legislation sponsored by the cut-and-run crowd for a premature pull-out in Iraq.

So they have changed strategy. The new goal is to force/persuade local governments to vote on all kinds of anti-war resolutions that hurt our military.

Duclos: Melanie, is there anything else you would like to add?

Morgan: I visited Iraq in 2005 when the situation wasn't as positive as it is now. And that's not to disparage the re-building, and the super-human fighting efforts of our troops. But when I returned to the region over the Christmas holidays, there is no denying now that the American military has turned a vital corner.

If you doubt that, listen to the silence from the Democrat candidates about the surge success.

But we have vital work that must be done in fighting the leftist ideology that permeates certain segments of our society who are promulgating defeat in a part of the world where we have to succeed. The consequences of failure are unthinkable.

We have NOT failed in Iraq. We WILL not fail in Iraq. We will NOT let insane people who hate our troops to undermine our troops in Iraq.

Join us in this effort. If you don't speak up now -- then when?
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  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #1
    A huge thank you!! to Chris for image help and editing my diarrhea of the keyboard a bit for easier reading.

    Also some further reading that is better off being left in the comments than making the article too long:

    Further reading:

    Melanie Morgan's interview on the Neil Cavuto show, found here.

    Recording of portions of the original city council meeting before the resolution was passed can be found here.

    Video of Code Pink physically stopped people from entering the Marine recruiting office in Berkeley, Ca., found here.

    Senator Jim DeMint's statement found here.

    The American Legion's full statement found here.

    Executive Director of Vets for Freedom, Pete Hegseth's, statement found here.

    A sample of letters from businesses that are threatening to take all their business from Berkeley because of the resolution can be found at Ms. Morgan's website, here and here.

    The Move America Forward Petition to be hand delivered on February 12, 2008, at the next Berkeley City Council meeting, found here. (Text of petition below)
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Mr Garibaldi
    #2
    Outstanding interview, Susan!

    I personally am all for the inherent rights of secession from the Union by Berkley if they find themselves unwilling to step down from their stance. We should be more than willing to help them out in any way, shape, or form that we can. No federal funding of any kind, excise taxes upon any goods or services that they provide to the rest of the nation, no military protection, so forth and so on.

    They don't want any part of our military, they don't need anything else that we do as a nation.

    OUTstanding!
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #3
    @ Mr Garibaldi
    Outstanding interview, Susan!

    I personally am all for the inherent rights of secession from the Union by Berkley if they find themselves unwilling to step down from their stance. We should be more than willing to help them out in any way, shape, or form that we can. No federal funding of any kind, excise taxes upon any goods or services that they provide to the rest of the nation, no military protection, so forth and so on.

    They don't want any part of our military, they don't need anything else that we do as a nation.

    OUTstanding!


    That includes the Coast Guard, which IS a part of the military, and which helped them with their recent oil spill.

    They shouldn't have had to.
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Helena Handbasket
    #4
    Excellent work Susan.

    This has stuck in my craw for days now. I can't tell you how happy I am we're not rolling over on this one. To give voice to Code Stink against our military processes is treasonous at best. For shame Berkeley, California.
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #5
    @ Helena Handbasket
    Excellent work Susan.

    This has stuck in my craw for days now. I can't tell you how happy I am we're not rolling over on this one. To give voice to Code Stink against our military processes is treasonous at best. For shame Berkeley, California.


    Thank you Helena, this has bothered me too. I have a total of 6 pieces on this already, including the latest update Melanie just emailed me:

    Susan,

    UPDATE!

    Assemblyman Guy Houston of Livermore is sponsoring a bill in the state legislature to strip Berkeley of STATE transportation funding in light of it's outrageous stand against the Marines.

    Houston's office says the measure will deny Berkeley $3.3 million dollars of transportation bond money due to the fact the Council voted to give taxpayers dollars for a parking right-of-way to Code Pink.

    Houston will join us at 7:35 a.m. Friday morning on Hottalk 560 KSFO to discuss this new measure.

    Developing.


    This isn't going to go away fro Berkeley, they crossed a line.
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Mark L Harvey
    #6
    Code Pink has crossed The Line and will pay dearly for this. No wonder we have considered them insignificant gutter trash.

    OUTSTANDING!!
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Nikki W (karateblossom)
    #7
    Awesome, Susan. I tend to get wrapped up in my little 'we are pro military' world and am just floored (or not) that elitest CA, once again, acts the part!

    I hope we deny funding. I hope businesses deny any Berkley ties. To express ones dislikes is one thing but to BAN our military from their pansy-ass mommy's pocket book waste of a city? That IS TREASON. Let them make it on their own....they will self-destruct and the United States wil once again be UNITED, as our tumor will have been excised!

    This makes me sad! Why is it that the elitest pigs are the ones who take the dumbest actions?
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #8
    Thanks to all of you. This action as well as prior actions at Berkeley from Code Pink, which I have written about at length deserves all the contempt and uproar that we can heap on them.

    Also in the Resolution this disgusting council passed is the paragraph below.

    3. Encourage all people to avoid cooperation with the Marine Corps recruiting station, and applaud residents and organizations such as Code Pink, that may volunteer to impede, passively or actively, by nonviolent means, the work of any military recruiting office located in the City of Berkeley.


    That statement, passed and helped encourage THIS disgrace.

    Watch that video and tell me it doesn't infuriate you.
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Chris Hogg
    #9
    @ Nikki W (karateblossom)
    Awesome, Susan. I tend to get wrapped up in my little 'we are pro military' world and am just floored (or not) that elitest CA, once again, acts the part!

    I hope we deny funding. I hope businesses deny any Berkley ties. To express ones dislikes is one thing but to BAN our military from their pansy-ass mommy's pocket book waste of a city? That IS TREASON. Let them make it on their own....they will self-destruct and the United States wil once again be UNITED, as our tumor will have been excised!

    This makes me sad! Why is it that the elitest pigs are the ones who take the dumbest actions?

    So....you're sayin' you don't like Berkeley? =)
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Mark L Harvey
    #10
    Chris....we have been doing battle with that city for years. We call it BERZERKeley.
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #11
    @ Chris Hogg
    So....you're sayin' you don't like Berkeley? =)


    Is that what she said? LOL
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Nikki W (karateblossom)
    #12
    Chris...I guess I do not! ;)
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #13
    @ Nikki W (karateblossom)
    Chris...I guess I do not! ;)


    NOW she said it. karateblossom, I cannot begin to tell you how much I dislike these folks. They do EVERYTHING in their power to discourage, disparage and insult our troops, THEN they beg for their help when they oil spills or earthquakes.

    Hypocritical bastards.
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Helena Handbasket
    #14
    Hypocritical bastards


    Just so we're clear -- you mean if some horrific natural or unnatural event were to occur in Berkeley we owe their hypocritical asses no military aid whatsoever? Can't we tog up the ladies of Code Stink and put them to work in the sewer sector? Please.
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #15
    @ Helena Handbasket
    Just so we're clear -- you mean if some horrific natural or unnatural event were to occur in Berkeley we owe their hypocritical asses no military aid whatsoever? Can't we tog up the ladies of Code Stink and put them to work in the sewer sector? Please.


    I wish!! I hope DeMint's legislation passes AND Assemblyman Guy Houston's passes.
  • Samantha A. Torrence Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Samantha A. Torrence
    #16
    Awesome article Susan. I am forever amazed that people could be so backward when it comes to the very honorable people who protect thier freedoms. Seems to me they are nothing but a bunch of children in need of a good spanking. I have a knee available if any would be willing to grow up a bit.
  • MAFJoe Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  MAFJoe
    #17
    Great interview with Melanie, Susan. I appreciate all you do to support our troops!
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  LewWaters
    #18
    Berkeley has a long history opposing the U.S. Military. In their cries of "Free Speech," it never crosses their pacifist brains that they are violating others freedoms to make choices of their own. Even in Berkeley, there are people who feel a sense of duty to serve their country.

    Code Pink would deny them that opportunity.

    If they ever suffer a terrorist attack, I hope they leave the Military alone and call on war protesters for protection.
  • Samantha A. Torrence Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Samantha A. Torrence
    #19
    Yeah because we all know Pepmo Bismal is the best way to keep terrorists away! lol
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #20
    Thanks Samantha, MAFJoe and Lew and to everyone that has voted and commented.

    If they ever suffer a terrorist attack, I hope they leave the Military alone and call on war protesters for protection.


    Sad thing about that Lew, is our troops would stand in front of them and protect them anyway.

    It shows WHO out of the bunch has class and who are ingrates.

    MAFJoe, my pleasure, it is the LEAST I can do for them.
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #21
    MAFJOE--- You are from Move America Forward, I am so braindead I didn't add 2+2 together.

    Thank YOU for what you folks are doing and all the hard work to support our troops and welcome to Digital Journal!!!
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Mark L Harvey
    #22
    @ Helena Handbasket
    Just so we're clear -- you mean if some horrific natural or unnatural event were to occur in Berkeley we owe their hypocritical asses no military aid whatsoever? Can't we tog up the ladies of Code Stink and put them to work in the sewer sector? Please.


    Code Stink? ROFLMAO!!

    Mel calls them Code Pepto Dismal!
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Mark L Harvey
    #23
    @ Samantha A. Torrence
    Awesome article Susan. I am forever amazed that people could be so backward when it comes to the very honorable people who protect thier freedoms. Seems to me they are nothing but a bunch of children in need of a good spanking. I have a knee available if any would be willing to grow up a bit.


    These people are the remnants of the hippies and their offspring.
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Mark L Harvey
    #24
    @ MAFJoe
    Great interview with Melanie, Susan. I appreciate all you do to support our troops!


    Good to see you here, Joe!
  • avatar Posted Feb 7, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #25
    Gold Star Mom, Debbie Lee, who lost her son in Iraq, has also written a letter to the Mayor of Berkeley...heart wrenching.

    February 3, 2008

    Mr. Tom Bates,

    I was appalled at the decisions that your City Council made at your last meeting, telling the Marines they were not welcome in your city and then granting Code Pink a parking place in front of the Recruiting office free for six months along with a free noise permit. I called and left a message last week for you to call me, a Gold Star Mother whose son gave the ultimate sacrifice. It doesn’t surprise me that you didn’t return that phone call. Trust me I won’t just go away!

    My son Marc Alan Lee laid down his life 8-2-06 for American’s to have all of the freedoms that we enjoy. He voluntarily went to his recruiter to find out what opportunities would be provided to him and what would be required for him to be a Navy SEAL. He was treated professionally and never once regretted his decision to become a Navy SEAL. He was honored to serve his country. He was stationed in California along with half of the SEAL community. I’m sure you’ve heard of the elite of the elite, as President Bush calls them.

    Marc’s was very pleased with his recruiter, and he was never lied to, tricked or deceived. His recruiter played the role of counselor or coach to Marc and helped him get the right schools, to be fit and prepared, and to understand what was ahead. Marc pursued his recruiter. Marc had a dream and a goal and he pursued the recruiter who showed him how to make his dream a reality!

    My oldest son Kristofer went to a Marine recruiter’s office in July 2000 and signed to be one of “The few, the Proud, The Marines.” He also never regretted his choice and was also treated professionally and was proud to serve his country for 5 years. My son-in-law Christopher also visited an Army recruiter and proudly served his country for 3 years.

    I wish that you served as a Mayor with the same pride and love for this country and those men and women who would defend you unconditionally! Our military defends your freedoms and has written a blank check to you and your city and every American and they have told you to fill in the cost of that freedom up to and including the cost of their lives and you are telling these people they are not welcome in your city? How dare you!

    I’m sure you continue to enjoy those freedoms that every man or woman who has served in our military has fought for you. Who do you think would defend you if the terrorists attacked your city? Who do you think would come if an earthquake devastated your city? Who do you think would come if there were riots in your city? How dare you try to legislate and change the laws of the land. I am demanding that you publicly apologize to the Marines and to our troops, and to their families and that you resend the legislation that you passed last week giving special rights to Code Pink.

    Demanding Respect for our Troops,

    Debbie Lee
    Proud Mother of Marc Alan Lee
    First Navy SEAL killed in Iraq 8-2-06


    This town needs to get their heads out of their asses and stand behind our troops who from the day they sign up are saying "we will die for you".

    They deserve better than what Berkeley has done.
  • avatar Posted Feb 8, 2008 by  Paul Bright
    #26
    Chaining yourself to the doors of a VOLUNTEER service and then hiding behind the freedom of speech is ass-backwards. No one is making anyone go into the Marine recruiter office. If you don't like the war, fine. Most don't. If you don't support why we are there, fine. There are a good number of people who believe that the war in Iraq is a total lost sacrifice of our troops and I'm about 80% in agreement with that. they all belong in Afghanistan and Pakistan in my opinion.
    But to chain yourself in front of a Marine recruiting station, denying others the right to CHOOSE to be part of the few and proud (my brother was a Marine... and still is in his heart) gives into the terrorists and their wish to break our spirit. Code pink could have easily just picketed, or handed out flyers, but they went too far. I wouldn't call moveon.org anti American, but anytime you do ANYTHING against people who give up more rights than you could ever think of in the name of freedom, you step on sensitive waters.
  • avatar Posted Feb 8, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #27
    Quick Update here: Berkeley Mayor Apologizes To Marines Over Recruiting Center Flap.

    Got a little too hot for him it seems.

    As six Republican senators devised a plan to yank $2.3 million in federal funding for Berkeley programs, the mayor of the famously liberal city apologized Wednesday for his hard stance against a Marine recruiting center.

    Two City Council members vowed to soften their stance as well.


    The money. There is no change of heart, they are full of it when they say they meant no offense...all you have to do it read the wording of the resolution...three short paragraphs and their intent was crystal clear!!

    I am not sure this matters much. The fact is, they DID pass the resolution, they showed their disdain for the Marines and an apology will not change what is already known.

    It is clear from the Mayor's later statement though, exactly why he is doing this:

    "There's really no correlation between federal funds for schools, water ferries and police communications systems and the council's actions, for God's sake," said Bates, a retired U.S. Army captain. "We apologize for any offense to any families of anyone who may serve in Iraq. We want them to come home and be safe at home."
  • avatar Posted Feb 8, 2008 by  S.H. Mills
    #28
    Clearly, a lot of effort and passion went into this report, Susan. Nice job getting the exclusive interview too!
  • avatar Posted Feb 8, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #29
    @ S.H. Mills
    Clearly, a lot of effort and passion went into this report, Susan. Nice job getting the exclusive interview too!


    Thank you S.H. I am highly impressed with your exclusive and the work you did yesterday also.

    A good week again for DJ with someone as talented as you :o)
  • avatar Posted Feb 8, 2008 by  Mark L Harvey
    #30
    @ Susan Duclos
    Quick Update here: Berkeley Mayor Apologizes To Marines Over Recruiting Center Flap.

    Got a little too hot for him it seems.



    They can "apologize" all they want to. Their ship has sunk.
  • avatar Posted Feb 8, 2008 by  Bob Ewing
    #31
    A very well written and thought through article, thanks for the insights that I gained by reading it.
  • avatar Posted Feb 8, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #32
    @ Bob Ewing
    A very well written and thought through article, thanks for the insights that I gained by reading it.


    Thanks muchly Bob.

    Snooper? Yes it has.
  • atroxodisse Posted Feb 8, 2008 by  atroxodisse
    #33
    I appreciate your article and hard work. I don't particularly like the characterization that anyone who leans left doesn't support the troops.
  • avatar Posted Feb 8, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #34
    Great article...huge eye-opener and both well done! :)

    I bet the Mayor did some serious groveling NOT to have to apologize and the fact he did...well, that doesn't even begin to undo the damage that's been done!
  • avatar Posted Feb 8, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #35
    @ atroxodisse
    I appreciate your article and hard work. I don't particularly like the characterization that anyone who leans left doesn't support the troops.


    atroxodisse, no ones say that any that leans left doesn't support the troops. I have personally met AND talked to plenty of people that were able to separate the troops from actions they didn't like and I correspond with a few on the left, not the far far left, but who vote democratic, that actually support the troops AND the war on terror..

    I have met just as many on the left that refuse to stand up and say "HEY, there is a difference" and it is those that are just as bad as the Code Pinkos...because their silence does nothing to help put a stop to people disparaging the troops, calling them names and passing idiotic resolutions like the one shown and only encourages them to do so.
  • avatar Posted Feb 8, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #36
    @ Debra Myers (skyangel)
    Great article...huge eye-opener and both well done! :)

    I bet the Mayor did some serious groveling NOT to have to apologize and the fact he did...well, that doesn't even begin to undo the damage that's been done!


    Not only that Skyangel, his reasoning about the MONEY, shows he cares about that or he wouldn't have apologized.

    The resolution is clearly stated and there is no room for misunderstanding or misinterpreting the councils intent.

    They just didn't expect the backlash they have received and will continue to receive, you are right.... it is too late.
  • avatar Posted Feb 8, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #37
    Here's a thought: for all those that bad-mouth the troops and the military in general...why don't these idiots put on that uniform and go do what our men and women have done! Since we know damned well that they won't...who's the cowards here??? They aren't so big and bad after-all!!!
  • avatar Posted Feb 8, 2008 by  Mark L Harvey
    #38
    @ Debra Myers (skyangel)
    Here's a thought: for all those that bad-mouth the troops and the military in general...why don't these idiots put on that uniform and go do what our men and women have done! Since we know damned well that they won't...who's the cowards here??? They aren't so big and bad after-all!!!


    YEAH! What she said!
  • avatar Posted Feb 8, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #39
    LOL Snooper and nicely said Skyangel.
  • avatar Posted Feb 8, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #40
    Skyangel, I think The America Legion said it well too when American Legion National Commander Marty Conatser said :

    "I have been a recruiter in the National Guard and I know that it's tough duty, with long hours," Conatser said. "What these recruiters do is essential to our national security. Without recruiters we have no military. And I don't think we can count on the flower children from Berkeley to protect this nation when it comes under attack. They have to remember that Marines are not the enemy; the terrorists are."
  • avatar Posted Feb 8, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #41
    @ Mark L Harvey
    YEAH! What she said!


    @ Susan Duclos
    LOL Snooper and nicely said Skyangel.


    LOL! Thanks!

    American Legion National Commander Marty Conatser said it best, for sure!
  • MAFJoe Posted Feb 8, 2008 by  MAFJoe
    #42
    Congratulations on the "Top Find" honor, Susan. Well deserved. You put a lot of effort into this piece and it was well-done.
  • avatar Posted Feb 8, 2008 by  Susan Duclos
    #43
    @ MAFJoe
    Congratulations on the "Top Find" honor, Susan. Well deserved. You put a lot of effort into this piece and it was well-done.


    Thanks MAFJoe. Chris helped with the pictures, placement and in editing to make it easier reading. Sometimes, I admit, I get diarrhea of the keyboard, but it is you folks at MAF that do the work, the least I can do is try to report on it.

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