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Posted Dec 8, 2007 by  David Silverberg in Technology | 11 comments | 3954 views
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Digital Journal — Microsoft wants to rule the world, even Third World countries where $100 laptops for children will soon be prevalent. In a move bound to spark controversy, Microsoft announced it wants Windows XP to be installed in the computers for the project One Laptop Per Child (OLPC).

The software giant wants to extend its reach by bringing XP to the XO laptop, a low-cost Linux laptop available to developing countries for around $100.

Microsoft is requesting XO designers add a port to boost the storage capacity via an SD card so Windows XP can run on the system. The XO can only hold 1GB of flash memory, but Microsoft says XP could run on 2GB total memory.

James Utzschneider, a Microsoft general manager, said in a recent blog post:
"Much of the technology in the XO is developed using open source technology licenses that make it difficult for engineers employed by commercial software companies like Microsoft to work directly on the project."

Microsoft also said it is planning limited field trials in January of an XO computer running Windows XP.

This is typical Microsoft: getting its nose into the business of smaller players who want to release the least expensive product possible. The OLPC execs reportedly don’t want a system bloated with a Windows operating system, but Microsoft clearly isn’t hearing it.

As anyone who has purchased an operating system knows, Microsoft doesn’t like giving away its software on the cheap, so OLPC supporters are worried the XO’s cost will increase if XP is installed on it.

Some food for thought: Isn’t XP the last generation of Window’s OS? Like one popular Mac/PC ad illustrates, isn't it at least a little bit funny that Microsoft itself is "downgrading" to XP rather than pushing Vista on the OLPC?

It looks as though Microsoft can’t stand seeing a Linux device win attention around the world, so expect its insistence to bring XP to the XO to increase in the coming months.
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  • avatar Posted Dec 8, 2007 by  Bob Ewing
    #1
    engineers employed by commercial software companies like Microsoft to work directly on the project."
    and this is a bad thing?
  • avatar Posted Dec 8, 2007 by  Chris V. (cgull)
    #2
    Microsoft and Open Source are antonyms :), Microsoft can't get along. They don't know anything about Open Source, they should have done this long time ago and should have helped the developing countries.
  • avatar Posted Dec 8, 2007 by  David Silverberg
    #3
    @ Bob Ewing
    and this is a bad thing?

    Know what you mean. Microsoft is feeling antsy that XO is on Linux and wants to be part of the game. Sometimes I wonder why they don't back off on certain projects and let things fall where they may.
  • avatar Posted Dec 8, 2007 by  Susan Duclos
    #4
    I saw a show the other day about these laptops and the good they can do for children that have no opportunity for education.

    I agree it is strange that they are using their latest OS and are going with XP though.
  • Llewellyn Harris Posted Dec 8, 2007 by  Llewellyn Harris
    #5
    Definitely memory should be increased as XP will not run on such a system efficiently
  • avatar Posted Dec 8, 2007 by  biTToe
    #6
    Unfortunately OLPC was not able to meet the $100 pricing target. In its current configuration the price is roughly $200.

    If M$ is so interested in "helping" developing nations (read: wants a piece of this market) perhaps they could be convinced to produce an open-source version of XP, pared down to work with the current technology, and subsidize $100 (or more if upgrades are needed) of each laptop to bring the cost back to the original target price.

    If Apple didn't have its head up its butt, they would make a similar bid. Then, let Apple and M$ compete for the right to have their OS & logo on the start-up screen. Now, everyone wins (provided XP-open is stable): the giant gets his branding and developing countries get inexpensive laptops.
  • aristos_achaion Posted Dec 9, 2007 by  aristos_achaion
    #7
    Exactly how would this work?

    The XO ain't "mostly" FOSS software--it's entirely FOSS, including the BIOS. Though, theoretically, MS could run most of it, given that the vast majority of it is in Python.

    But the fascination of the XO isn't in the $100-ness...Windows can't do power management like the XO (suspending and resuming whenever the thing isn't in active use while keeping the image in a hardware framebuffer, suspending/resuming in ~100ms). The battery life of the XO would probably be a fifth with Windows of what it is in Linux. And are there even drivers for the 802.11s card under Windows? And I'm sure there aren't any applications for mesh networking under Windows.

    In short--there would be major hardware issues putting XP on an XO.
  • avatar Posted Dec 9, 2007 by  biTToe
    #8
    @ aristos_achaion
    But the fascination of the XO isn't in the $100-ness...

    It isn't a fascination it is the purpose of olpc:
    The mission of this non-profit association is to develop a low-cost laptop—the "$100 Laptop"—a technology that could revolutionize how we educate the world's children. (OLPC mission statement)

    It's not like Michael Dell and Nicholas Negroponte were sitting in a bar , slamming shots of Jägermeister, and Neg was like "but I need you to make me a laptop for $100" and Dell was like
    "Sorry, dude, can't be done." And Neg was like
    "Oh, yeah?"
    "Yeah!"
    "Well I'll show you. I'll find someone who can make a laptop for... " EEERRRPPpp... "$100. You'll see."

    The point IS to develop a very inexpensive laptop -the $100 laptop.

    As for M$'s part (or Apple -who already bases their OS on Unix) I'm sure it could be done. It wouldn't be a simple port to be sure. It would likely have to be a ground-up development (perhaps even the impetus for a new, revolutionary windows unfettered by the limitations of DOS -what a concept).

    The point here isn't that XP won't or can't run on the XO, the point is a free, open-source version could be developed for it; and, in exchange for subsidizing the cost of the laptop a Windows (or Apple) logo would be emblazoned somewhere, tastefully, on the thing.

    The company who does this gets good-will points:
    "Oh, aren't we so great here at M$. We really want to help developing countries move into the digital age... blah blah blah" and twice as many laptops can be delivered because the cost has been subsidized to half of the current cost.

    @ aristos_achaion
    In short--there would be major hardware issues putting XP on an XO.

    As soon as the XO delivers to the general public (I should have mine in two weeks) some 14 year-old kid is going to find a way to port XP and make it work. It will happen. It won't be great, or necessarily 100% stable but it will happen. All I'm saying is Apple or M$ could do it and profit while helping other at the same time.
    IMHO
    ƒ
  • kyuso Posted Dec 9, 2007 by  kyuso
    #9
    I don't understand the logic behind putting XP into OLPC. The whole reasoning is to allow kids in poor areas to be able to have cheap access to computers and internet, where open source fits this well.

    Windows is nothing more than an OS, and they'd have to add whole bunch of applications and internet apps that can run in sub-$200 laptops, not to mention non-encumbered updates to applications.

    Poor kids can't possibly have the resources to test trial versions of applications and pay $$ every time they need full versions and updates.
    Just having an OS doesn't cut it.
  • BertVK Posted Dec 10, 2007 by  BertVK
    #10
    What worries me the most is that MS would be locking third world countries into their marketing schemes. Even if they provide an almost free version of XP, nothing would stop them from making everything that follows unaffordable.
    At least with a FOSS solution we know there's a worldwide community with good intentions behind the software; now and in the future.
  • Llewellyn Harris Posted Dec 12, 2007 by  Llewellyn Harris
    #11
    @ kyuso
    I don't understand the logic behind putting XP into OLPC. The whole reasoning is to allow kids in poor areas to be able to have cheap access to computers and Internet, where open source fits this well.

    Windows is nothing more than an OS, and they'd have to add whole bunch of applications and Internet apps that can run in sub-$200 laptops, not to mention non-encumbered updates to applications.

    Poor kids can't possibly have the resources to test trial versions of applications and pay $$ every time they need full versions and updates.
    Just having an OS doesn't cut it.


    This nothing but a competition that Microsoft want to create between Microsoft and Linux. Microsoft is going to fail badly because XP will slow done the device and it will not perform at high speed as Linux does. Their is no pirated soft ware in Linux unlike Microsoft. Why can't Microsoft give XP to all users free of cost this will eliminate pirated soft ware? The dealers are not going to stop creating Pirated software? and the end user is going to suffer. That is why Linux is going to be the best software available for Indian users and also for people in Developing countries

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