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Claudia "Cris" Cristina Hoerig shot and killed her husband in March 2007 then fled to Brazil before her husband's body could be discovered. Brazil is not cooperating with the U.S. in extraditing the fugitive.
Major Karl Hoerig's memory lives on at Youngstown, Ohio Air Force Reserve Base as a friend and a fellow airman who served his country. He was a pilot both in the military and on civilian side and flew over 200 combat missions in Afghanistan and Iraq with the 910th Airlift Wing's Hercules C-130's. He served for 25 years in the military.
Karl met his wife, Chris, online and they were married in Las Vegas in 2005. It is reported that their marriage was rocky. Karl had even confided in colleagues at Southwest Airlines that he was unhappy in his marriage and afraid his wife may try something. He was planning on moving out on March 12, 2007. On that fateful day he was shot 3 times ,twice in the back and one point blank in the back of his head, and left for dead by the suspect, Claudia Christina Hoerig.
According to the Trumbull County Sheriff Christina purchased a .357 Smith and Wesson revolver with a laser tracking device at a shop in Braceville, OH two days before the murder. She then practiced at a shooting range in Warren, OH and had the handle of the gun fitted for her small hand. After committing the unthinkable she then used her privilege as a pilot's wife and procured a free flight to Sao Paulo, Brazil the same day. The America's Most Wanted website calls the murder of Karl Hoerig premeditated and cruel.
According to militarycorruption.com Chris dumped Karl's body in the basement, emptied his bank accounts which amounted to around $10,000 and wired $9,000 more to family in Brazil.
Her vicious ways were not limited to Karl, it has been revealed that she ran up thousands of dollars in credit card debt with a previous husband.
Dr. Thomas J. Bote said he was married to "the hellion" from 1990-99. He told cops that she was both mentally and physically abusive to him. Her dishonesty about finances caused many a fight. At one point, the doctor said, his former wife had 20 credit cards going and was bleeding him dry.
When the credit card debts piled up to the max, he couldn't stand it any more, and they had a big battle. The mild-mannered doc lost. He told investigators when he confronted her about the wild spending she laughed and presented him with divorce papers.
Claudia Christina Hoerig
Six months have passed and Brazil still has not cooperated with extraditing Christina who has a warrant out for her arrest. Karl's family was reluctant to speak with the media and wanted to give law enforcers and investigators time to work on the case. The pain they have felt finally led to plea to the public to write to their congressmen and senators and exert pressure on Brazil to return the fugitive who is living freely and has not been arrested by Brazilian authorities.
The plea has been herd by Congressman Tim Ryan, representative of the 17th district of which Newton Falls, Karl Hoerig's residence, falls under.
Tim Ryan is ready to introduce legislation which will put pressure on the Brazilian government. He says two pieces have been drafted that would call for re-negotiating the US/Brazil Treaty, and limit foreign aid to that country. Last year the United States gave 14 million dollars to Brazil.
Congressman Ryan is prepared to introduce the legislation if Brazil refuses to extradite Hoerig, and will also be working on legislation to put restrictions on people traveling from Brazil to the United States as well as tariffs on Brazilian products.
"If they say she is not coming back, we drop the legislation immediately, " Ryan told reporters. "They need to know we are fed up."
Claudia Christina Hoerig has dual citizenship in the United States and Brazil and is hiding behind Brazilian policy that allows the country to refuse extradition of its citizens.
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My heartfelt sympathies go out to you, Am, and to his family as well. I hope that Brazil will send her back...she should not be able to live a life without paying the price for killing her husband.
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I didn't personally know the guy, he did work out at the base and I am sure my husband has given him immunizations. I received an e-mail from hubby that was being passed around at the base about the developments in this story. It is both local and international at this point. I am just sick that this happens, and far too often in this world.
My hope in publishing this story is that the families wishes will be heard and more people will ask their representatives in congress to do something.
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@ Samantha A. Torrence
I didn't personally know the guy, he did work out at the base and I am sure my husband has given him immunizations. I received an e-mail from hubby that was being passed around at the base about the developments in this story. It is both local and international at this point. I am just sick that this happens, and far too often in this world.
My hope in publishing this story is that the families wishes will be heard and more people will ask their representatives in congress to do something.
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sounds great Sky!
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I found another source and updated the story a bit. This woman was definitely a she-devil. I wouldn't be surprised if she continues and earns the title Black Widow.
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@ Samantha A. Torrence
sounds great Sky!
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@ Samantha A. Torrence
I found another source and updated the story a bit. This woman was definitely a she-devil. I wouldn't be surprised if she continues and earns the title Black Widow.
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A story that nicely illustrates that the sale of guns should be banned.
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Hard to argue with that logic, but I happen to like my right to own a gun and be able to defend my property with it. All rights can be abused. We could also argue that the recent teen killing herself over someone saying nasty things to her is a nice illistration on why we should get rid of free speech. But that aint' gonna happen. =)
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@ Samantha A. Torrence
Hard to argue with that logic, but I happen to like my right to own a gun and be able to defend my property with it. All rights can be abused. We could also argue that the recent teen killing herself over someone saying nasty things to her is a nice illistration on why we should get rid of free speech. But that aint' gonna happen. =)
My prayers to the family of this American hero!
Also, great analogy here, like she wouldn't have been able to get a gun if she really wanted one. That logic is to typical of those against the 2nd amendment and they don't seem to ever miss an opportunity to spew that stuff out. -
Yeah I do think people forget that the only thing anti-gun laws do is prohibit the law a biding people from owning a gun, it does nothing to criminals that get them off of the "black market."
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@ Samantha A. Torrence
Hard to argue with that logic, but I happen to like my right to own a gun and be able to defend my property with it. All rights can be abused. We could also argue that the recent teen killing herself over someone saying nasty things to her is a nice illistration on why we should get rid of free speech. But that aint' gonna happen. =) Good arguments. However, it must also be said that far more people die in the United States because of gun accidents than in Canada, France, Germany... And that's excluding the ones that have been killed by design, because the States are big champions there as well.
I prefer to lose my property, and keep my health intact. It may not be pleasant, but having a bullet in my head is that even less, because chances are that the thieves will be better at killing than I am.
Every right can indeed be abused, but guns have no other purpose than killing. In that respect, they are unique. And for that reason, I believe they should be banned.
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Have anything against swords? =) lol
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@ Samantha A. Torrence
Have anything against swords? =) lol Yes, actually. We had an incident in Toronto with a woman chasing people with a Samurai sword. I do not think that these things should be allowed. They also have only one goal: kill others. -
Sending my emails as soon as I hit "add comment", thanks so much for bringing this to our attention.
I hate stories like this, but it is so important to get them out there.
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Tragic story but excellent job, Am. Thoughts and prayers for friends and family of the slain airman. I hope justice is served.
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Thanks Susan ,and S.H. I hope this makes national headlines as it is important that Brazil cooperates with U.S. All the evidence points to her, it is solid. I don't think there is a shadow of a doubt that she is guilty.
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When foreign affairs are involved with all the complexity of such relationships, justice frequently takes a subordinate position.
The moral of this story is obvious: use due caution & diligence in selecting a mate. You can't judge a book by its cover nor a woman by her skin. Tigers & leopards are beautiful and deadly.
When buying a used car it is wise to contact the previous owner to ask about past and potential problems he may be aware of. The same goes for a used wife.
The bottom line:
1. Stay sober.
2. Investigate before you invest.
3. Keep your head on straight.
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Well done and written, as usual. People kill people and people will use whatever is available to do so. I won't get into how inane "gun-banning" has proven to be. Hopefully, Brazil will send the cretin back.
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There's a special wrong in the premeditated killing of one's spouse.
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Sent mine as well Amaranth. BTW, email later tonight (I came home sick today, that stomach flu going around--grandbabies all sick and did grandma care? DUH), and I'll see if I can hunt down the email addresses I compiled on the immigration stuff. Or the site where they can be found for not just the representatives but their staffers as well.
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An excellent report Amaranth.
There are always going to be predators in the world like her. The ones who always end up being hurt, or in this case killed, are those who are innocent and too trusting.
I hope that Brazil does extradite her and justice will be served.
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I agree...the price some people pay for love is plain too high and the predators--male or female--need to be punished and if Brazil won't cooperate, well, then they don't really need us to help them, do they?
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Beth, go into my site (you have the status to grab everything) , search Staffers and the whole list is on one post.
Feel better.
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Honestly, I have something of a bee in my bonnet when criminals are protected by the countries they originate from. A man is murdered, his funds drained, her family prospers from his death, and this creature will probably never come to justice. *expletive*
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I know Helena, horrible.
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My prayers to the family of this American hero!
Sounds like a real B-----! Hopefully, the longer that she stalls from getting extradited, the longer the courts will giver her in prison!
Send her to Texas after she is extradited.
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Posted Dec 6, 2007 by V |
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Ambassador Sobel's e-mail address SobelCM@state.gov
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Amaranth, Debbie from Right Truth is also going to post a call to action on her blog about this.
You seem to have gotten a ball rolling here.
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I swiped it from Susan to put on my blog as well...we will get the word out!
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Wow, that is awesome guys.
I am so glad people are as worried about this as I am. That woman needs to face justice. She didn't just steal from her husband, he had children from another marriage too.
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Thanks V, writing that down now.
Amaranth, we do tend bite into something like a pit bull when we feel it is a worthy cause and you brought us all a very worthy cause.
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Posted Dec 6, 2007 by V |
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Americans must stand up and let our Government officials know that we will not tolerate sending aid and importing products from a country that is harboring a person that murdered a war veteran of ours! WE MUST WRITE TO OUR CONGRESS.
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I can not begin to tell everyone how the family felt abandoned by the U.S. State Department......The State Departments first tactic was to ignore the families attempts to correspond. Now they respond, but just with generic information, not answering any of our questions. FRUSTRAITING!!!!!
Please contact Condoleeza Rice (U.S. State Department) and the President and let them know how you feel about this continued injustice.
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Hey Brother, thank you for posting.
My hubby works out at the base and sent me the information about Karl. I just wrote the amabassador. I also forwarded the story to a couple of the national media. I hope we can do something for your family.
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Amaranth, Thank you for posting Karl's story and supporting our cause.... We greatly appreciate everyone's effort.
I can plainly see, the State Department will not take any action, unless we put pressure on them. Brazil will probably not take any action unless our government stops supporting them financially....the foreign aid amount is nothing compared the the Billions of dollars we gave them in International Monetary Funds.
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Thank you for your support of Karl's story. We must continue to write letters to the U.S. State Department to get justice for his murder. It is a shame someone could commit such a crime and flee to her native country and live freely. She stole a life that was very special to me and she needs to be punished for what she did. It is time Brazil stops harboring such criminals.
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Kim you are most welcome, if there are any changes you hear about let us know. I'll be keeping an eye on things myself.
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Am, I emailed a few bloggers to help spread the word and Michael over at the PoliGazette found a couple more links and articles to add.
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Thanks Susan, the Vindicator is the local paper here.
I wrote to a few blogs but I am not sure if they picked it up yet.
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Bring tar, feathers, ropes...
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Thanks Jed, I feel the same way.
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For once, JR, we wholeheartedly agree...
And so do a lot of others--we've splashed this across our blogs to get the word out as far and wide as possible and we simply will not let up on this one.
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@ Samantha A. Torrence
Thanks Jed, I feel the same way.
I had thought you were approving of the lynchmob, amaranth.
What is the evidence which has led you all to conclude the woman did what she has been accused of doing?
From what I can tell she has been convicted by the same process as Jay Leno and his crowd use to blindly support all accusers.
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Jed
You obviously are not aware of all the evidence. We actually woud like her to come back to the United States, so she could go to trial. Unfortunetly, the day my brother was murdered; she fled the country and we haven't heard from her since.
Maybe when she confided in her sister, she was just joking. And maybe she has just forgot to call my family after my brother was murdered with the gun she had just purchased. And mabye she just forgot to go to the funeral.
We would like to see her in a court room; where a jury could listen to all the evidence, but unfortunetly she has forgotten to return home after her vacation.
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Brother,
don't mind him he is just a troll. There are certain people in this world that get great enjoyment from causing upset and Jed is one. Best to ignore him.
Alot more websites have picked up the story, still working on the national media thing. I hope she comes back to America soon, she needs to face the book.
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Brother, I really hope that justice will be served and this woman is brought back to the US and faces the crime that she's committed. Best to your family.
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I have sent the link to Dr Drudge.
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@ Brother
Jed
You obviously are not aware of all the evidence. We actually woud like her to come back to the United States, so she could go to trial. Unfortunetly, the day my brother was murdered; she fled the country and we haven't heard from her since.
Maybe when she confided in her sister, she was just joking. And maybe she has just forgot to call my family after my brother was murdered with the gun she had just purchased. And mabye she just forgot to go to the funeral.
We would like to see her in a court room; where a jury could listen to all the evidence, but unfortunetly she has forgotten to return home after her vacation.
Ever thought the reason for extradition treaties is to protect people from the kind of lynchmobs you're appealing to here on this forum?
I don't have any idea about guilt or innocence. I simply know that if I were wanted for some crime which occurred in this nation, I'd want to run to some nation which did not automatically extradite.
Have you any idea of how this nation which has more than 1% of its citizens locked up compares to other nations?
Have you any idea of how the rest of the world looks at our nation's record on capital crimes?
Have you any idea of how G. W. Bush's record as an executioner in Texas looks to the rest of the world?
I have a good deal of sympathy for families which have suffered from criminal activities; but I have no respect for our country's record vis-a-vis criminal justice.
The crowd of cackling crones screaming for blood on this forum is one of the reason our country is more comparable to nations like Iran, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia than France, Belgium and the Netherlands.
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Jed,
If you don't like this country.......Consider moving to one of those countries you admire so much.
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@ Jedediah Redman
Ever thought the reason for extradition treaties is to protect people from the kind of lynchmobs you're appealing to here on this forum?
I don't have any idea about guilt or innocence. I simply know that if I were wanted for some crime which occurred in this nation, I'd want to run to some nation which did not automatically extradite.
Have you any idea of how this nation which has more than 1% of its citizens locked up compares to other nations?
Have you any idea of how the rest of the world looks at our nation's record on capital crimes?
Have you any idea of how G. W. Bush's record as an executioner in Texas looks to the rest of the world?
I have a good deal of sympathy for families which have suffered from criminal activities; but I have no respect for our country's record vis-a-vis criminal justice.
The crowd of cackling crones screaming for blood on this forum is one of the reason our country is more comparable to nations like Iran, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia than France, Belgium and the Netherlands.
I am no friend to frontier justice...
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Helena I was just thinking that very same thing. I had said on another thread that Jed reminds me of someone that is either his twin or his soulmate.
Criminals run, innocent people stand and fight.
The fact that she ran, as well as the the other circumstantial evidence makes her "look" guilty and we still do not know if they have DNA and other evidence that proves it one way or another...thats what trials are for and why she needs to be brought back to face a trial so all the evidence can be presented, then it can be decided if she is guilty or innocent.
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and then we can tar and feather her. aka throw the book at her
aka get the pitch forks and escort her behind to jail.
I am sorry but there isn't much evidence looking like it is in her favor.
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@ Brother
Jed,
If you don't like this country.......Consider moving to one of those countries you admire so much.
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@ Helena Handbasket
What a boorish creature you are. You remind me of another boorish creature............... oh right!
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@ Jedediah Redman
Perhaps this may have something to do with your difficulty in having an original thought?
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Okay, my two cents:
Jed...obviously you've never had a family member that's been killed, molested, robbed or even accused of committing a horrible crime, otherwise, you'd feel differently. From what you've said above, let me see if I get this straight:
You think it's okay for those that commit crimes to flea to countries that don't extradite to escape prosecution, yes?
Granted, she's not been proven guilty, but there's plenty of proof that indicates that she is guilty of a crime. I will stick to those that believe that she needs to be brought back here and face the court. If it's proven that she is by some small miracle that she is innocent, then a lot of us will have to eat our words...but until that time...she's a wanted person.
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Agreed Skyangel--at the very least she needs to be extradited back and face the courts. If she's innocent (though I seriously doubt she is), she will be vindicated and we will have to eat her words. Her actions, however, are not those of an innocent person.
I find it interesting how the "court of public opinion" is fine for "convicting" so many (the Duke LaCrosse players and many politicians come to mind), but JR seems to think it shouldn't apply to a suspected murderer of a service man. Perhaps that's because from the pictures above she appears to be quite a good looking woman (as if women, especially nice looking ones, aren't entirely capable of committing heinous crimes). Shows where the priorities are.
At the same time, as long as Brazil is not cooperating in returning this woman to face the courts, why should we continue to give aid to Brazil? Do you keep giving things to your neighbor when he/she keeps your property and still wants more? I don't think so--you cut them off and tell them no more until you return what you've already taken.
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Well said, MissBeth!
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Jed,
I am impressed you are doing something to make this country better --- What exactly is it that you are you doing?
Talking about something in which you are clueless?
Lets get a couple things straight:
1. This is not a capital murder case.
2. I am probably not as knowledgeable about our law enforcement and criminal justice system as you are --- I only have over 21 years working in the criminal justice system / law enforcement, corrections and a degree in criminal justice. Oh wise one - Please share with us your wealth of knowledge.
3. We are only asking that Claudia be extradited, so that she can have a fair trial. If fair trials offend you.....let me appologize on behalf of the civilized world. Perhaps we should listen to an authority in this matter -- like yourself.
4. I defend your right to have ridiculous opinions -- But I am not your Bud.
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As Americans we need to stay focused on the task at hand. Arguing amongst one another takes valuable time that could be better spent trying to gain allies for the purpose of bringing someone who is wanted by the FBI and Interpol back to this country to stand trial. Since this Country is where the crime was committed; this is the best place to get a fair trial for all involved.
Everyone has an opinion and has the right to voice that opinion because of people like Karl and all the brave soldiers who are willing to sacrifice their lives for every AMERICAN regardless of their opinions. But I will not waste any more of my time reading or responding to someone beating their drum about things that they have such limited knowledge of. God will see that vengeance is served. We must see that a murderer does not get a chance to ruin anyone else’s life. All that is needed is a fair trial in the country where the crime took place.
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Nicely said Kim. Kudos
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I agree...nicely said, Kim.
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Make that three to agree...very well said, Kim.
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Here Here Kim.
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@ Debra Myers (skyangel)
Okay, my two cents:
Jed...obviously you've never had a family member that's been killed, molested, robbed or even accused of committing a horrible crime, otherwise, you'd feel differently. From what you've said above, let me see if I get this straight:
You think it's okay for those that commit crimes to flea to countries that don't extradite to escape prosecution, yes?
Granted, she's not been proven guilty, but there's plenty of proof that indicates that she is guilty of a crime. I will stick to those that believe that she needs to be brought back here and face the court. If it's proven that she is by some small miracle that she is innocent, then a lot of us will have to eat our words...but until that time...she's a wanted person.
I'd suggest, then, that some of you members of the mob might wish to post some of that proof to convince people who do not think people must respond to accusations--that is why we have extradition treaties.
If Brother's case is strong enough his attorney should make his case to the Government of Brazil.
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@ MissBeth
Agreed Skyangel--at the very least she needs to be extradited back and face the courts. If she's innocent (though I seriously doubt she is), she will be vindicated and we will have to eat her words. Her actions, however, are not those of an innocent person.
I find it interesting how the "court of public opinion" is fine for "convicting" so many (the Duke LaCrosse players and many politicians come to mind), but JR seems to think it shouldn't apply to a suspected murderer of a service man. Perhaps that's because from the pictures above she appears to be quite a good looking woman (as if women, especially nice looking ones, aren't entirely capable of committing heinous crimes). Shows where the priorities are.
At the same time, as long as Brazil is not cooperating in returning this woman to face the courts, why should we continue to give aid to Brazil? Do you keep giving things to your neighbor when he/she keeps your property and still wants more? I don't think so--you cut them off and tell them no more until you return what you've already taken.
If thew U. S. is still giving money to Brazil, it must have been first borrowed from China.
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@ Brother
Jed,
I am impressed you are doing something to make this country better --- What exactly is it that you are you doing?
Talking about something in which you are clueless?
Lets get a couple things straight:
1. This is not a capital murder case.
2. I am probably not as knowledgeable about our law enforcement and criminal justice system as you are --- I only have over 21 years working in the criminal justice system / law enforcement, corrections and a degree in criminal justice. Oh wise one - Please share with us your wealth of knowledge.
3. We are only asking that Claudia be extradited, so that she can have a fair trial. If fair trials offend you.....let me appologize on behalf of the civilized world. Perhaps we should listen to an authority in this matter -- like yourself.
4. I defend your right to have ridiculous opinions -- But I am not your Bud.
Perhaps, bud, you should not worry about your being so smart and try to stop bashing your head against a brick wall.
If you have requested extradition, it will happen as soon as Brazil is convinced the person being extradited will receive a fair trial--it is their determination.
As I said, if I were on the run from some legal problems, I'd certainly try to run to some country who would investigate to see if there were actually grounds for extradition.
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@ Kim
As Americans we need to stay focused on the task at hand. Arguing amongst one another takes valuable time that could be better spent trying to gain allies for the purpose of bringing someone who is wanted by the FBI and Interpol back to this country to stand trial. Since this Country is where the crime was committed; this is the best place to get a fair trial for all involved.
Everyone has an opinion and has the right to voice that opinion because of people like Karl and all the brave soldiers who are willing to sacrifice their lives for every AMERICAN regardless of their opinions. But I will not waste any more of my time reading or responding to someone beating their drum about things that they have such limited knowledge of. God will see that vengeance is served. We must see that a murderer does not get a chance to ruin anyone else’s life. All that is needed is a fair trial in the country where the crime took place.
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Kim,
You are right, we need to stay focused on the real issue.
I feel it necessary to clarify some of the misinformation.
1. This is not a capitol murder case.
2. The family only wants Claudia back to the U.S., so that she can have a fair trial. -- Not looking for "frontier justice"
3. Brazil is not concerned about the evidence or a fair trial... Brazil does not want to extradite any Brazilian citizen....even if there was a signed confession and a video tape of the crime.... Brazil doesn't want to extradite their citizens.
4. If Claudia was not a Brazilian citizen -- Brazil would have no problem extraditing her.
5. Claudia has dual citizenship --- Brazilian and U.S. ---- We want her back --- this case is different, because she became a U.S. citizen and swore allegiance to this country in 1999.
6. The U.S. government will only pursue this issue, if enough people contact them and let them know about the injustice.
7. This issue is larger than just Karl's case.... As it stands, the U.S. has given Billions of dollars to Brazil - foreign aid and International Monetary Funds. If a terrorist organization uses Brazilian citizens to attack the United States, and the terrorist make it back to Brazil.... No matter how much evidence....Brazil will NOT extradite them to the U.S.
8. We as citizens need to tell our government officials, that we are not satisfied with an arraignment with a country that we support financially --- harboring criminals and being a potential staging point for terrorist -- who will not be subject to prosecution for any crimes they commit in the United States.
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brother,
I will write to as many government officials that I can thing of.
Is there anywhere I can get a list of addresses (email or land)
I will also ask my friends and family to start a letter writing campaign. this is so important. The reality is that a Brazilian national can commit heinous crimes here and as long as they get back to Brazil they are safe. That really needs to change.
God Bless and I pray more people get involved in helping the family and friends of Karl
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Beth, links messed up and if you are talking about the staffers email addresses... it is here
http://wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com/2007/07/email-addresses-for-staff-of-24-wfrs.html
Here is Congress email online page:
http://www.house.gov/writerep/
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Thank you both,
I will share this with my family and friends
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I generally don't list the blog URL in comments here at DJ, but this is a very worthy cause... I hope you don't mind Am.
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Now I'd like to add that Chris ( AKA claudia) has a few warrants out for her arrest and at least 2 of those for ,without a doubt, she is guilty of.
Now the first one being a DUI for her failed suicide attempt where she consumed various pills then proceeded to call my sister whose name I will not give out (she'll have to do that herself) and tell her that she was going to kill herself. Then she got in her car started driving around and ended up crashing and totaling her car, for which she was charged with a DUI due the influence of the pills which obviously impacted her driving ability considering the state she was in when she was found.
The second warrant she was charged with was failing to appear in court for the DUI charge.
The third warrant being my fathers murder
Now I'm going to need help from Brother on this one because im not entirely sure whether she was charged or not of this but the fourth one being Fleeing from prosecution for the murder of Karl D. Hoerig.
If any of this information is incorrect PLEASE let me know I'm trying my hardest to keep my facts straight
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Thanks for the clarifications.
Let me just assure you that despite the manipulation made by Jed, nobody really is for frontier justice. However people do tend to want to see justice served and adages are used to express the outrage at injustice.
Brent thank you for commenting. I am sorry that you have had to go through this, I just couldn't imagine what I would do in your situation. I wish I could do more for your family than just write an article. Do you guys get alot of support from the Air Base?
You know I am just surprised with all the coverage you guys found this article.
@ Sue D.
I generally don't list the blog URL in comments here at DJ, but this is a very worthy cause... I hope you don't mind Am.
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Well i moved out of his house after living with him and Claudia after living with them for about a year and now live in North Carolina so I'm not as in touch with everything as I'd like to be. I do know however that the guys at the Air Base are supporting us as best as they can but i doubt anyone is really sure how they should go about doing that. The fact there trying is what matters the most to me. Being away from that area in a way is such a heavy toll on me emotionally but that's offset by me being able to cope with the situation because I'm away. I doubt at times that its what I really need but its the situation I'm stuck in.
As for Jed i really don't care about what he has to say its obvious he has no real idea what he's talking about. the fact of the matter is the women has been charged with committing crimes and brazil is helping her flee from the courts
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Well, if you want the guys to write their congressmen I'll put together an e-mail with links and instructions. Some of them are from out of state, so it would reach more of the congress than just Tim Ryan.
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Go for it the family needs all the support it can get. I'm trying to get a site together for my dad cant really explain to much about it yet but when its together ill make sure to link it
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The more the merrier, Am--that's how people stopped the immigration stuff, they let themselves be hears--and this situation needs the same kind of saturation to get the attention of those in charge. The key is to be relentless. Don't hear back from them in 48 hours? Send another email blast--and continue until they're tired of hearing from you and DO something. It's a true adage the squeaky wheel gets the grease--the more squeaky wheels, the more action and attention where you need it.
It's times like this the miracle of the internet comes through--so much cheaper and quicker--and able to blanket more--than regular mail and can be so much more effective.
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I'm in complete agreement with ya on that one :)
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Brent--- if you need help with the website let me know just email me, i check my email daily. talk to you soon
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Posted Dec 16, 2007 by V |
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does anyone have connections to someone in Brazil media. If we can get our story to Brazil it may help.
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I don't have any connections, but it never hurts to write a letter.
Brent, may I suggest that you or your family makes a temporary website about their feelings and knowledge on international extradition policies and how it relates to Karl's death? If you founded an organization it would give you more leverage in Congress.
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I haven't heard anything new on this subject for a while. It's been a little too hush hush. Fill us in Brother.
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Posted Feb 23, 2008 by V |
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" really!! you know what it means when thing quiet down. She should start looking over her shoulder
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Posted Feb 24, 2008 by MEA |
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@ Reprisal
I haven't heard anything new on this subject for a while. It's been a little too hush hush. Fill us in Brother.
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Congressman Tim Ryan is working to put pressure on Brazil financially.... as we know, money talks.
America's Most Wanted has delayed showing the episode about this case until around May. When I get the date for the show--- I'll post it.
The U.S. Embassy is Brazil still has not answered our questions, they continue to ignore us or give us generic answers to questions we didn't ask..... but mostly just ignore us.
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