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article imageVermont: Go Ahead, Drop Those Drawers

Posted Aug 23, 2007 by  Chris V. (cgull) in Lifestyle | 10 comments | 551 views
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Brattleboro, a small town in Vermont, voted on Tuesday to remove its temporary ban on public nudity. When the emergency temporary ordinance expires next month, public nudity will no longer be illegal.
Brattleboro Selectboard which governs the small town of Brattleboro passed a temporary ban on public nudity in its streets last month. On July 17, 2007, it passed an emergency rule by a 3–2 margin "banning nudity on the main roads and within 250 feet of any school or place of worship, among other places" because of a number of complaints they received from the town residents. A national newspaper said about the Brattleboro’s temporary ordinance, “Tolerant town goes intolerant”.

However, on Tuesday, the Selectboard decided to vote again whether to make the ban permanent and voted in favor of removing the ban 3-2. This will allow public nudity on Brattleboro streets without threat of being arrested.

Canoe.ca reports one board member, Dora Bouboulis, said the U.S. is going down a slippery slope and they wanted to do something about it. She also said the town has no right to dictate others’ rights to dress or undress.

Not everyone is happy or favors this removal of the nudity ban. Michael Gauthier got a petition of 967 signatures from people who support the nudity ban and gave them to the Selectboard before the voting took place.

Canoe.ca reports Michael Gauthier said:
What is the point, other than shock and awe, that the nudists are trying to make?''


Public nudity is legal in Vermont, though not disrobing in public.

In my opinion, they can have some private areas to roam about in nude, but doing it in public places in shopping areas and schools is not a good idea. What do you think? Would you accept this in the area in which you live?
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  • avatar Posted Aug 23, 2007 by  MDee
    #1
    Hi CGull-
    I think nudity is fine on private beaches, clubs and resorts specifically designated for it. Public display, however, is something else, as not everyone is into that sort of thing.
    Good post.
    MDee
  • avatar Posted Aug 23, 2007 by  Chris V. (cgull)
    #2
    @ MDee
    Hi CGull-
    I think nudity is fine on private beaches, clubs and resorts specifically designated for it. Public display, however, is something else, as not everyone is into that sort of thing.
    Good post.
    MDee
    I agree that will satisfy both parties.
  • avatar Posted Aug 26, 2007 by  A Shea
    #3
    Actually, I thing this is great. Sure some people may abuse the opportunity or get a cheap thrill, but folks will get over the novelty pretty quick. Look at Europe, in many places you can nude sunbath in the City Park or City Pool or beach and no one cares. Nudity is no big deal; you just need a little maturity. Of course, I'm waiting for the "but we have to protect the children" card to be played. Hell, kids are more relaxed around nudity, and adapt quicker, than adults and more than one study has shown that no harm is done. Those used to the human body have less sexual issues and less body issues than those who make it a big deal. Oh, and before you ask, yes I am a nudist. That doesn’t mean I’ll do a little nude shopping while I’m in town, but it is good to know that, in Vermont, I don’t automatically become a sex offender just for not wearing clothes. Sex and nudity are not the same thing.
  • avatar Posted Aug 26, 2007 by  666divine
    #4
    @ A Shea
    Actually, I thing this is great. Sure some people may abuse the opportunity or get a cheap thrill, but folks will get over the novelty pretty quick. Look at Europe, in many places you can nude sunbath in the City Park or City Pool or beach and no one cares. Nudity is no big deal; you just need a little maturity. Of course, I'm waiting for the "but we have to protect the children" card to be played. Hell, kids are more relaxed around nudity, and adapt quicker, than adults and more than one study has shown that no harm is done. Those used to the human body have less sexual issues and less body issues than those who make it a big deal. Oh, and before you ask, yes I am a nudist. That doesn’t mean I’ll do a little nude shopping while I’m in town, but it is good to know that, in Vermont, I don’t automatically become a sex offender just for not wearing clothes. Sex and nudity are not the same thing.


    I have to agree with you. Here in Toronto it is legal for women to walk around topless in public, however I haven't noticed too many women taking advantage of that, but it is nice to have the option.
  • avatar Posted Aug 26, 2007 by  A Shea
    #5
    @ 666divine
    I have to agree with you. Here in Toronto it is legal for women to walk around topless in public, however I haven't noticed too many women taking advantage of that, but it is nice to have the option.


    The important thing isn't that you do, but that you can. Of course, if you don’t use the right you may lose it and a surprising number of women don’t even realize they can go topless without legal hassles. In some places in the US women who appear topless in public are arrested, tried and convicted of a sexual offence - no different than pedo preditors or rapists – while topless men aren’t even noticed. That’s just not right.
  • avatar Posted Aug 26, 2007 by  Chris V. (cgull)
    #6
    @ A Shea
    The important thing isn't that you do, but that you can. Of course, if you don’t use the right you may lose it and a surprising number of women don’t even realize they can go topless without legal hassles. In some places in the US women who appear topless in public are arrested, tried and convicted of a sexual offence - no different than pedo preditors or rapists – while topless men aren’t even noticed. That’s just not right.
    If the law says it clearly then it is fine, but they can't have one for the males and females.
  • avatar Posted Aug 26, 2007 by  A Shea
    #7
    @ Chris V. (cgull)
    If the law says it clearly then it is fine, but they can't have one for the males and females.


    I take it that you meant ... but they can't have one law for the males and another law for the females? This would be true. Of course, in some societies, men get to wear modern western clothes while women have to wear traditional (modest) clothing. Apparently there is no requirement for male modesty, just the female variety.

    Personally, I see it as a matter of choice. If I REALLY want to be naked on the streets of Brattleboro and you REALLY want to wear a hijab on those same streets we should be able to sit in the local Starbucks and have a latte together with no recriminations. But how likely is that?
  • avatar Posted Aug 26, 2007 by  Chris V. (cgull)
    #8
    @ A Shea
    I take it that you meant ... but they can't have one law for the males and another law for the females? This would be true. Of course, in some societies, men get to wear modern western clothes while women have to wear traditional (modest) clothing. Apparently there is no requirement for male modesty, just the female variety.

    Personally, I see it as a matter of choice. If I REALLY want to be naked on the streets of Brattleboro and you REALLY want to wear a hijab on those same streets we should be able to sit in the local Starbucks and have a latte together with no recriminations. But how likely is that?
    I think in Brattleboro they could do it, if the law allows.
  • larryullrich Posted Sep 29, 2007 by  larryullrich
    #9
    I'm christian, been in relationships and married I know people that have kids all in the nude world, we have a church there at Glen Eden. With body acceptence as not being sex or anti-sex but allow people to be free in public helps scocity to not be critical of the so called not so sexy then one becomes not so critical of self and then eating disorders will not be so rampid. Were more social, humble, the walls are lifted and the fear is gone. We have far less teenage pregnacies we are more trusting with not being so enticed of other's that we lose boundries. The package is unwraped it unloads the sting of temptation. Some cities are such puritans I'm wondering if they’re going to put underware on my dog. I am truly glad we stopped the witch hunts. I'm a nude model and art lover. Our bodies are the artwork of God, it was us that chose to hide it. God told us what we were trying to hide but we don’t wear animal skins anymore and don’t need to. Accept others and their humanity, your one! We need more cities like this. Larry Ullrich
  • avatar Posted Sep 29, 2007 by  Chris V. (cgull)
    #10
    Thanks Larry Ullrich for your comment.

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