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article imageDNA on Greenland, and what about global warming?

Posted Jul 6, 2007 by  Bart B. Van Bockstaele in Environment | 6 comments | 805 views
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Scientists took hundreds of DNA samples from the ice 2km deep at the base of the southern Greenland ice sheet. They found DNA from species such as alder, pine, spruce and yew trees. They also found DNA from beetles, butterflies, flies and spiders.
According to the scientists, the DNA is at least 450,000 years old. It shows that Greenland was very different at the time from what it is today, that it was covered with forest very comparable to the forests in eastern Canada.

According to researcher Eske Willerslev of the University of Copenhagen in Denmark, this discovery fills a big gap in our knowledge of how life looked like in regions that are now covered by ice before the ice was formed. Approximately 10% of the earth's surface is covered in ice.

They suppose that mammal DNA could also be found, if they extend their searches further. Plant DNA survives better in permafrost, probably simply because there are more plants than mammals.

This is certainly very interesting, but it also raises questions about current climate models. According to a respected 2006 modelling study by Bette Otto-Bliesner of the American National Center for Atmospheric Research, the site where the DNA samples come from was not covered in ice about 120,000 years ago during the last interglacial period.

According to the latest report by the IPCC temperatures in the Arctic were 3 to 5 degrees Celsius warmer than today and the sea levels were 4 to 6 metres higher than today during the last interglacial period. The water for this was supposed to come from Greenland.

This data is clearly inconsistent with this new discovery of DNA. The researchers say that they used 4 different dating methods and that these all resulted in date ranges that overlap each other. Therefore, the DNA must be older than the last interglacial period because the ice at the bottom of the sheet is between 450,000 and 800,000 years old.

If the tests are correct, and there is no reason to doubt that, the climate modelling study must be wrong, meaning that there was ice on the site after all.

The significance of this all will probably become clear in the future, but, in my opinion, it clearly shows that climate models are very far from perfect, and that this is one further indication that the theory of human caused global warming is nothing more than that: a dubious theory based on very shaky data. It might be true, but it may just as well not be.
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  • avatar Posted Jul 6, 2007 by  phree
    #1
    Global Warming - A new Religion designed by those who benefit from the fear it causes.
  • avatar Posted Jul 6, 2007 by  Bart B. Van Bockstaele
    #2
    @ phree
    Global Warming - A new Religion designed by those who benefit from the fear it causes.

    Indeed, just like so many others. Where is the time people were buying nuclear fallout shelters that would protect them against nothing more than heavy rainfall? Where is the time of the millennium bug that would even stop the cows from giving milk? Now it is global warming. Whatever. I often wish I had less of a conscience. I could make tons of money exploiting the gullible.
  • avatar Posted Jul 6, 2007 by  phree
    #3
    @ Bart B. Van Bockstaele
    I often wish I had less of a conscience. I could make tons of money exploiting the gullible.


    Well I'm glad you don't. There is a greater benefit for all, in providing factual information and evidence to the gullible until they become educated. Since there are no longer any reliable mainstream journalists with balls anymore, it's up to us.
  • avatar Posted Jul 6, 2007 by  Bart B. Van Bockstaele
    #4
    @ phree
    Well I'm glad you don't. There is a greater benefit for all, in providing factual information and evidence to the gullible until they become educated. Since there are no longer any reliable mainstream journalists with balls anymore, it's up to us.

    Thanks free. Same feeling here. The trouble is that journalists are "normal" people. They do it for a living. They are probably married and have two children, a house, two cars, a dog, and maybe a barbecue, and a huge mortgage that must be paid off. So, when the main advertiser rattles the bosses cage, the journalist jumps and writes a raving article about the next hottest new "technology" that's no more than a crappy reuse of prehistoric techniques.
  • avatar Posted Jul 10, 2007 by  MDee
    #5
    Amazing the extent of global warming! I didn't know that Greenland was once covered with forests.
    Fascinating post.
    MDee
  • avatar Posted Jul 10, 2007 by  Bart B. Van Bockstaele
    #6
    It has long been assumed, until the global warming hype came along, but it seems that it is has now been shown to be true. That is why, in my opinion, science is so fascinating. It is about finding out the truth. Science has no political agenda.

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