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17,200 Scientists Dispute Global Warming

Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  Michael J Wagner in World | 28 comments | 9115 views
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Is there a scientific consensus on the topic of man made global warming? If you read the news in the major media you would have cause to believe that there is.
The truth is very different. Most of the media articles you will see refer to reports issued by the IPCC. The IPCC is the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate change, a political body appointed by the UN. Many of the 3,000 members of this panel are not scientists, but simply political appointees. The few real scientists on the panel have disputed the panel's findings but have been silenced by having their comments deleted from the reports.

Several of these scientists have asked to have their names removed from the IPCC report, but have had their requests denied. Several have actually sued the panel to have their names removed, but few have been successful.

The actual fact regarding consensus on this issue is that there are many more scientists who dispute the claims regarding global warming than there are who support them.

The IPCC reports rely on a particular computer model which projects temperature changes due to "positive feedback" reactions in the atmosphere. The IPCC report claims that as CO2 levels rise, temperatures will also rise causing more water to be evaporated into the air. Since water vapor is by far the leading greenhouse gas, increased water vapor is supposed to accelerate the global warming process in a runaway feedback loop. The actual scientific data, however, do no support the positive feedback model. The basic methodology used by the IPCC cannot be supported by actual data so the panel relies on the news media to filter the news that reaches the public. This article is an attempt to set the public record straight.

The link I have provided here will take you to a petition, signed by over 17,200 scientists who think that the currently available scientific data do not support the conclusion that global warming is anything other than a naturally occurring cyclic phenomenon. The site also contains a peer reviewed scientific paper that gives an overview of the existing climate science. This peer reviewed paper demonstrates that the positive feedback model is not valid and that therefor, the entire hypothesis of man-made global warming is also not validated.

Here are a few quotes from the paper and the petition:

The empirical evidence actual measurements of Earth's temperature shows no man-made warming trend. Indeed, over the past two decades, when CO2 levels have been at their highest, global average temperatures have actually cooled slightly.

Regarding carbon dioxide in the atmosphere:

The observed increases are of a magnitude that can, for example, be explained by oceans giving off gases naturally as temperatures rise. Indeed, recent carbon dioxide rises have shown a tendency to follow rather than lead global temperature increases.

Follow, rather than lead? Yes that is what the data show. In Al Gore's famous ice core data, showing the supposed correlation between temperature and CO2, what he neglected to say was that there was an 800 year time lag between a rise in global temperatures and the following rise in CO2. Yes, temperature goes up 800 years before CO2 levels rise.
Global warming alarmists claim that the temperatures we are seeing now are the highest in several thousand years. The science actually shows that:

During the Medieval Climate Optimum, temperatures were warm enough to allow the colonization of Greenland. These colonies were abandoned after the onset of colder temperatures. For the past 300 years, global temperatures have been gradually recovering . ... they are still a little below the average for the past 3,000 years. The human historical record does not report ''global warming'' catastrophes, even though temperatures have been far higher during much of the last three millennia.

The paper also presents a large amount of temperature measurement data, from a variety of sources, such as balloon and satellite, all of which show a slight downward trend in global temperatures, not a rise as would be expected from the IPCC computer models.

Disregarding uncertainties in surface measurements and giving equal weight to reported atmospheric and surface data and to 10 and 19 year averages, the mean global trend is minus 0.07 ºC per decade.

In short, the findings presented in the paper are:

The global warming hypothesis has been thoroughly evaluated. It does not agree with the data and is, therefore, not validated.

As for the coming disaster scenarios presented by the global warming advocates, such as sea levels rising:

The reported current global rate of rise amounts to only about plus 2 mm per year, or plus 8 inches per century, and even this estimate is probably high . The trends in rise and fall of sea level in various regions have a wide range of about 100 mm per year with most of the globe showing downward trends.

Most of the globe showing "downward trends?" Interesting. I will also tell you that by personal experience as a sailor, water levels aren't rising anywhere that I have sailed, and I have sailed from the Atlantic Ocean, to the Great Lakes to the Gulf of Mexico. The Great Lakes are actually falling significantly.

How about the claim that severe weather is increasing due to global warming?

Similarly, claims that hurricane frequencies and intensities have been increasing are also inconsistent with the data. Figure 16 shows the number of severe Atlantic hurricanes per year and also the maximum wind intensities of those hurricanes. Both of these values have been decreasing with time.

And:
As temperatures recover from the Little Ice Age, the more extreme weather patterns that characterized that period may be trending slowly toward the milder conditions that prevailed during the Middle Ages, which enjoyed average temperatures about 1 ºC higher than those of today.

The paper concludes with statements like:
There are no experimental data to support the hypothesis that increases in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases are causing or can be expected to cause catastrophic changes in global temperatures or weather. To the contrary, during the 20 years with the highest carbon dioxide levels, atmospheric temperatures have decreased.

We also need not worry about environmental calamities, even if the current long-term natural warming trend continues. The Earth has been much warmer during the past 3,000 years without catastrophic effects. Warmer weather extends growing seasons and generally improves the habitability of colder regions. ''Global warming,'' an invalidated hypothesis, provides no reason to limit human production of CO2, CH4, N2O, HFCs, PFCs, and SF6 as has been proposed.

The Petition Project Site also includes a petition to the US Congress. The wording of the petition is:

We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.

There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.

Given the fact that over 17,200 scientists have signed this petition, I would have to say that there certainly is no consensus among scientists that global warming is real or that it is man made. Those who promote the global warming hypothesis have a political agenda, not a scientific one. They are on a malicious mission to shut down the world's industrial societies and prevent the 4 billion or so human beings living in the third world from ever improving their condition. I find this to be unconscionable and inhuman. I condemn these people.

Perhaps it may be as simple as Michael Crichton said in his book "State of Fear." The politicians of the world have a vested interest in keeping the people in a state of fear. It enables the politicians to continually undermine the freedoms and rights of the people in the name of making them safe.

For myself, I side with Benjamin Franklin who said "Those who will sacrifice essential liberty for the promise of safety deserve neither liberty nor safety, and neither is what they will have."
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  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  Carpenter S. Newton
    #1
    Great article, Michael. I stumbled upon the site with 17,200 signatures a couple weeks ago and I wondered why that got ignored while the 3,000 or however many got so much coverage. Hmmm.

    Some advocates of global warming frighten me. The fanaticism about it and blatant ignoring of history and facts is scary enough, but I'm afraid that one day a crazy global warming activist is going to push the line and harm someone. I was watching a TV show a couple months ago where someone who fervently believed in global warming and said there was no scientific argument otherwise advocated standing outside of a coffee shop and slapping patrons who came out with styrofoam cups with pro-environment stickers in the face because they "obviously" didn't care about the environment.

    Unfortunately, because our society is so hung up on celebrities and one-liners and talking points, the people who know the most about the climate, its history and future don't get heard because they simply don't get the kind of coverage Al Gore and his science fiction does.

    Again, great article Michael, I liked your personal touches. Welcome to DJ!
  • loulou Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  loulou
    #2
    The 2 quotes below speak volume to me. There are too many people out there talking about "climate change" who don't know a thing about science.


    "Many of the 3,000 members of this panel are not scientists, but simply political appointees."

    "Perhaps it may be as simple as Michael Crichton said in his book "State of Fear." The politicians of the world have a vested interest in keeping the people in a state of fear. It enables the politicians to continually undermine the freedoms and rights of the people in the name of making them safe."
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  Carolyn E. Price (gohomelaker)
    #3
    Excellent, well written article, Michael, and thank you for bringing this link to DJer's attention.

    I have been on the non-committal fence on this one for quite some time. While I do agree with the 'pro' forces that we do have a lot of pollution in the cities giving rise to "smog days", etc. that need to be addressed, whether we are on the brink of a global calamity has always not sat right with me. The science always seemed a bit fuzzy to me and this clarifies things considerably. I do believe that there is a lot that we as individuals can do to protect our environment and ourselves from truly toxic chemicals and we should all cut back totally oblivious overconsumption of fossil fuels.

    Again, I say thanks for bringing this work to our attention. It gives one pause and I hope it gives people a lot to discuss.
  • Michael J Wagner Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  Michael J Wagner
    #4
    Please note that this article does not deal with issues such as smog in cities or other kinds of pollution. While sailing around the country I have seen evidence of severe smog. (The Chicago skyline, normally visible from 30 miles out, fades into a fuzz of smog. Also, sailing through waters like the Gulf of Mexico, I see a lot of floating debris; stuff carelessly discarded into the water.)
    The environmentalists may have some legitimate gripes on these issues, but their take on global warming specifically is all wet.
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  RobotGod
    #5
    Excellent article...Very well written. What have I been saying people???
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  Bob Ewing
    #6
    so 17,200 scientists are wrong,
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  Bob Ewing
    #7
    How many scientists are there globally?
  • Michael J Wagner Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  Michael J Wagner
    #8
    Dear permafrog,
    Just how does it happen that you know more than 17,200 scientists?
    Have you read the peer reviewed scientific papers? (The IPCC reports are not peer reviewed science.) Have you studied the data, checked the computer models?
    I think you have just fallen for the hype like so many other people. Hope you like living in the stone age. For me, I don't, so I will maintain my lifestyle and will not submit to the hype.
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  Bob Ewing
    #9
    @ Michael J Wagner:
    Dear permafrog,
    Just how does it happen that you know more than 17,200 scientists?
    Have you read the peer reviewed scientific papers? (The IPCC reports are not peer reviewed science.) Have you studied the data, checked the computer models?
    I think you have just fallen for the hype like so many other people. Hope you like living in the stone age. For me, I don't, so I will maintain my lifestyle and will not submit to the hype.


    I know more than many people and less than many others. While you are entitled to your opinion I am entitled to ignore it. So some scientists are right and others are wrong, and you have chosen to believe the ones that require you to do nothing, how scientific of you.

    There is no need to crawl into a cave to make the necessary change, that statement is just silly.

    While reading the summary of the document you quoted i found this.

    "To be sure, CO2 levels have increased substantially since the Industrial Revolution, and are expected to continue doing so. It is reasonable to believe that humans have been responsible for much of this increase. But the effect on the environment is likely to be benign. Greenhouse gases cause plant life, and the animal life that depends upon it, to thrive. What mankind is doing is liberating carbon from beneath the Earth's surface and putting it into the atmosphere, where it is available for conversion into living organisms."

    Now while this does not talk about rising sea levels and on the surface may be appear benign, what it does not say is that when an ecosystem changes in this case gets warmer, the life forms that it can support change. This can increase the range that say, for example,that mosquitoes that can transmit malaria can travel ,thus spreading the range that malaria covers and introducing it into regions, where it is not. This can increase health care costs, fro example, which could lead to higher taxes due to an increased demand on the health care system.

    Climate change is a complex phenomena.
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  phree
    #10
    The great fear campaign continues.

    Here is a good video you should check out.
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  phree
    #11
    Perma, how would you account for the 800 year lag? It is rising temperatures that causes higher CO2 levels.
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  Bob Ewing
    #12
    @ phree:
    Perma, how would you account for the 800 year lag? It is rising temperatures that causes higher CO2 levels.

    I agree that rising temperatures are causing higher CO2 levels thanks for the support.
  • Michael J Wagner Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  Michael J Wagner
    #13
    phree,
    Thanks for the link, I've seen the video before. I found it very interesting that the co-founder of Greenpeace was so outspoken in opposition to the global warming hypothesis.

    And one more note to permafrog:
    You are free to make whatever changes in your lifestyle that seem appropriate to you. What I deeply resent is that the political process is being used to FORCE people to make changes against their will and against their own interests.
    I have no opposition to whatever VOLUNTARY choices people who believe in the religion of global warming may make in their lives. The key word being VOLUNTARY.
    Choices imposed by governments are never voluntary. Governments are inherently coercive in all they do, and it is coercion in all its forms that I oppose.
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  Bob Ewing
    #14
    No argument there about the choices being made voluntarily rather than forced.
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  Bob Ewing
    #15
    Patrick Moore greenpeace co-founder
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  xyruzmyboy
    #16
    What a great photo. i always hear a news about global warming. When do we start to take control with it? maybe we work with it if it is too late already. thanks for sharing the information, i like the photo that you posted!
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  Chris V. (cgull)
    #17
    Great article Michael. This is all the living planet we have, even if we don't believe the Global Warming theory, we can't keep doing the same thing over and over again. The amount of waste generating, the emissions from the car, pollution chemical and industrial, some point it is going to come back and haunt us. You can read the book Revenge of the Gaia. We can use Solar, wind power, instead of oil. Scientists have found just with six spots on Earth with Solar Panels will be sufficient to power the entire Earth, why can't we use Solar power? All this Global Warming dispute is trying to say who is right, who is wrong, instead of finding the truth.
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  phree
    #18
    By the way everybody, this has been the coldest April in 60 years!
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  rob13
    #19
    @ phree:
    By the way everybody, this has been the coldest April in 60 years!


    Tell me about it. The low temp was 48 on Sunday here in sunny Florida. 48 is about 12-14 degrees below the normal low temp for North Florida this time of year.
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  Carpenter S. Newton
    #20
    @ phree:
    By the way everybody, this has been the coldest April in 60 years!


    No kidding. Here close to Charlotte, we broke an all-time record yesterday. 21 degrees, breaking the old record of 24 set back in 1923.

    Baseball games were snowed out...

    Sleet fell in Texas...

    Normally, I've at least got the short sleeves out by now. But here I sit in my corduroy pants and hoodie.
  • Michael J Wagner Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  Michael J Wagner
    #21
    Just a quick comment on solar power.
    I use solar on my boat and it works great - except - it is VERY expensive on a per-kilowatt hour basis. This is because the most efficient solar panels on the market today are only about 14% efficient.
    The process of manufacturing photo voltaic cells is extremely energy intensive, so much so that most solar cells will not replace the energy used to manufacture them, even if they are in service for many years.
    We cannot (yet) replace fossil fuels with solar, or any other so called "alternate" system because the technologies have not yet reached break-even. (The break even point is reached when the technology returns as much energy as it takes to produce it.)
    Solar is one example of a technology that has not yet reached break even. Ethanol is another. (It takes 150,000 BTU of energy to produce enough ethanol to provide 90,000 BTU of output. Where do the other 60,000 BTU come from?)
    Hydrogen is a great fuel. It burns very clean. The problem with hydrogen is that there simply isn't any of it on earth that isn't locked up in a molecule. Most of it is locked up inside water molecules. To break the water molecule apart and produce pure hydrogen requires the input of energy. It happens that it is exactly the same amount of energy as is obtained from burning hydrogen. The problem is that no system for breaking the chemical bond is 100% efficient, so every hydrogen based system has inherent energy loss, or inefficiency built into it. And just where does all the energy to separate the hydrogen from the water supposed to come from?
    There are no easy answers. In the mean time, we have to use fossil fuels or nuclear. These are the only technologies available today that provide significantly more output than input.
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  geozone
    #22
    Regarding that figure of 17,200 scientists, one thing that is neglected is that many scientists are specialized in fields outside of the bounds of climate change. A physicist whose speciality is solid state, for example, would not be qualified enough in terms of work in the field to give an informed opinion based on research on whether global warming is a reality or not.

    However, there are Earth changes underway. But then everything is in constant change.

    Scientists cannot really say what happened for certain in the past. Only state what they, from their current established theories are and on what they understand as the dynamics of Nature are, believe transpired in the past on this planet. By no means is that the unqualified, absolute picture.

    There are many theories in the various fields of science and in any particular field, different models on how Nature operates which the general public is completely unaware of.

    Whether you subscribe in global warming or not, there is one thing that is certain. You cannot use the excuse that global warming is not taking place to abrogate responsibility to live more in consonance with the Nature as opposed to continuing to control Nature. Modern technology is harming us in more ways than you realize. The human body is fundamentally electromagnetic in nature and hence emfs, electromagnetic fields, do have effects on us. Some are more sensitive than others but it is affecting all of us. Consider how much we are dependent on electrical devices and how are very homes are wired and creating emfs.

    I have said this before and I will re-iterate it again. Science invents theories, hypotheses. Those are essentially stories to explain how Nature works but there is no proof of the absolute correctness of those theories, only disproofs. Theories are viable theoretically only as long as they are successful in accounting for phenomena and in predicting with reasonable success future phenomena. They are paradigms which keep changing but the paradigm shift usually takes place over a long period of time. Therefore applied science based on current models which really do not understand how Nature acutally works will often produce technologies that are detrimental to life as opposed to beneficial. This comes from a former physicist--me.
  • avatar Posted Apr 9, 2007 by  moooing10
    #23
    I think global warming is over exagerated
  • avatar Posted Apr 10, 2007 by  Sonic
    #24
    @ moooing10:
    I think global warming is over exagerated


    WRONG one day the earth will be destroyed and we will have to live in Mars!!!
  • Michael J Wagner Posted Apr 10, 2007 by  Michael J Wagner
    #25
    Oops,
    There's global warming on Mars too. And Neptune and Saturn and Jupiter and Titan, etc.

    I still haven't figured out how Man burning fossil fuels on Earth causes global warning on Mars or the other planets. If, on the other hand, it's all caused by fluctuations in the sun's output, then it all makes sense.
  • Khebab Posted Apr 12, 2007 by  Khebab
    #26
    This "scientific work" by Robinson et al. has been debunked ad nauseum a long time ago and the petition is originally called the Oregon Petition:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_petition

    You can find a lot of comments on RealClimate.org (just search for the keyword Oregon), I quote:

    As wikipedia points out, the petition can't be taken seriously because virtually *none* of the signatures could be confirmed.

    Here is what wikipedia says about the attached article to the Oregon petition:

    The senior author of the article was Dr. Arthur B. Robinson, a biochemist (not a climate scientist) and a Christian fundamentalist. The second and third authors were Drs. Sallie Baliunas and Willie Soon of Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics. Both of these individuals have strong ties to the George C. Marshall Institute, which has taken a skeptical position on global warming since the 1980s and has received extensive financial support from the oil industry. The fourth and final author was Zachary W. Robinson, Arthur Robinson's 22-year-old son.

    Here's what it says about the signatures:

    One newspaper reporter said, in 2005:

    I quote a comment from RealClimate.org:

    In less than 10 minutes of casual scanning, I found duplicate names (Did two Joe R. Eaglemans and two David Tompkins sign the petition, or were some individuals counted twice?), single names without even an initial (Biolchini), corporate names (Graybeal & Sayre, Inc. How does a business sign a petition?), and an apparently phony single name (Redwine, Ph.D.). These examples underscore a major weakness of the list: there is no way to check the authenticity of the names. Names are given, but no identifying information (e.g., institutional affiliation) is provided. Why the lack of transparency?

    You make it sound like all but a few of the 17,000 signatures could be confirmed, when in fact, virtually none of the 17,000 could be.

    there were at least four petitions put out in the 1990's. They are the Heidelberg petition , the Oregon petition, and two Leipzic Declarations. They are completely bogus and were put out by the usual supects Singer, Seitz et al.
  • Tony Ryan Posted Feb 9, 2008 by  Tony Ryan
    #27
    Excellent article, Michael; even many months later.

    No doubt your readers ponder the implications, and ask themselves... where to from here?

    Most will be overwhelmed by the apparent complexity of global politics and reluctantly turn to urgent demands of personal and family survival. I suggest a rethink.

    All problems, following successful analysis, reveal a first step towards remedy; followed by other steps that capitalise, one upon the other. Problematically, the first objective invariably appears alien to the ultimate goal, which leads most observers to refrain from offering support. My solution to this is to attract the attention of those who take the trouble to think these things out, and conjoin them within a single organisation; which in turn becomes part of a conglomerate of organisations unified by the aforementioned first step. As you may have guessed, I am a strategist, not a scientist.

    Concomitantly, and purely by tenacity and inexplicably good luck, I eventually identified the essential chain of events which will reverse the rapid centralisation of political and economic power by a certain elite group. It is this entity who is behind the obviously coordinated campaign to address 'man-made global warming'. It doesn't really matter who these people are, but the curious need only identify ownership of WB, IMF and BIS funds; the TC and the UN HQ.

    This centralisation has been shrouded with myriad smoke screens, signs to blind alleys, and trails to red herrings; all to obscure the simple Achilles heel of their grand plan. This is what our strategy targets.

    This is neither the time nor place for details, but any readers who are interested are welcome to contact me at tonyryan43@gmail.com or, in a week or so, visit oziz4oz.com which should be launched by then.

    Meanwhile, as a flip side to Michael's article, on mathaba.net I have an article outlining the rationale behind the scheme to make the world plead for the privilege of paying $3 trillion in taxes to 'save our planet from a fate worse than death'.
  • avatar Posted May 21, 2008 by  RCB2875
    #28
    History and science prove humans being the cause of Global warming wrong. Only a fool would buy into the idea that we caused it. it is no more than a convenient tool for leching peoples cash and free will.

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